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I would really like new characters or something to that effect. Have the same feel as the old movies. But not a remake you know new characters same story. The story of the skywalkers was concluded. Lets go into new places. It is a big universe lets go somewhere new. Hell we could make our own movie. It doesn't necissarily have to be funded. George is probably gonna give Rick the horrible Macallum the rights when he goes. If he gave the rights to someone with a mind for the films then that would be great. But honestly the only place we have seen new characters with new plots have been in the books and video games. I think it is about damn time we get movies. TV shows even the best ones become boring. Joss Whedon is a genius but he runs things into the ground. He bled the buffy stone more than he should have. Stargate was cool BUT BORING. The new Battlestar would be great if I had my cool mid 70's cylons in it. BUT it seems that with all sci fi shows, They never go anywhere. I really want to get into the art of film making. I have so many ideas for a movie. I really want to get some of you guys to help me with this one. It isn't star wars but it is in space. I am gonna keep thinking over the next 5 or 6 years about it. Right now is too early for me to make a film simply because I am still too young and inexperienced. But I will continue to think it over. I really want to have a solid plot then after that I am gonna need some screenplay peeps.

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I am toying with the idea of keeping Watto and perhaps Zam Wessel (not as a shape-shifter). They stood out as feeling Star Warsy to me.

I understand why people would want to keep Maul and Qui Gon, I think in large part because they had two of the best performers in the films. I have no use for Maul. Such an obviously evil and "cool" character is destined to be superficial. Qui Gon was the only Jedi who seemed to have any sense. I would allow Obi Wan to have Qui Gon's favored characteristics.

Watto and Zam are probably the only elements I would keep mostly intact. What are all your feelings on those two?

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     ^Watto is, hands down, the greatest CGI character ever created, IMHO. The voice actor was an important part of that, of course. He had loads of personality. Keep him!

     Zam was interesting as a female hunting another female. SW needs female characters that don't detract from the Leading Lady. I thought that, as a shapeshifter, there could be some dimensionality to the Jedi, as well. If Obi warned Ani that shapeshifters can alter their impression in the force as well as appearance, we could get a sense of Jedi power.

    Edit: I am concerned, however, about such a radical capability as shapeshifting being introduced into the universe. I thought that maybe it could be limited to something a little more chamelion-like. A change in coloring, or course, and a "realistic" alteration of existing facial features.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

     Zam was interesting as a female hunting another female. SW needs female characters that don't detract from the Leading Lady. I thought that, as a shapeshifter, there could be some dimensionality to the Jedi, as well. If Obi warned Ani that shapeshifters can alter their impression in the force as well as appearance, we could get a sense of Jedi power.

  

 I think it's a bit odd that the fact she's a shape changer actually has no bearing whatsoever on anything, even the scene where she's hiding in a crowd.

Seemed like a reason to throw in a CG effect, nothing more. Pity.

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thejediknighthusezni said:

    Edit: I am concerned, however, about such a radical capability as shapeshifting being introduced into the universe. I thought that maybe it could be limited to something a little more chamelion-like. A change in coloring, or course, and a "realistic" alteration of existing facial features.

That's a good point.  If there's one shapeshifter, there's probably a million.  Every military/intelligence outfit in the galaxy would be after these guys to recruit them/force them into obedience...

It's sort of like Clones, as I've mentioned somewhere else here...

Once you establish that there can be clones, why wouldn't they be EVERYWHERE?  Especially if you can clone whomever you like.  Everytime Mon Mothma appears, wouldn't you be at least a little suspicious that she's a clone?  Wouldn't replacing the Emperor with a Rebellion loyal clone be at the top of their to-do list?  If they didn't have any Emperor DNA from which to create a clone, wouldn't getting that DNA be at the top of their list?

Or replacing him with a shapeshifter?

Back to Mrebo's question (can I call you Max?)-

I wouldn't keep any of those characters, but that might just be me.  I didn't find Watto or Quigonn to be interesting or "Star Warsy" in the least.  005 used to run a Watto fansite, and I know a lot of members of this board have a spot for Quigonn... but in the words of Lina Lamont, "I can' stan' 'im."

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xhonzi said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

    Edit: I am concerned, however, about such a radical capability as shapeshifting being introduced into the universe. I thought that maybe it could be limited to something a little more chamelion-like. A change in coloring, or course, and a "realistic" alteration of existing facial features.

That's a good point.  If there's one shapeshifter, there's probably a million.  Every military/intelligence outfit in the galaxy would be after these guys to recruit them/force them into obedience...

It's sort of like Clones, as I've mentioned somewhere else here...

Once you establish that there can be clones, why wouldn't they be EVERYWHERE?  Especially if you can clone whomever you like.  Everytime Mon Mothma appears, wouldn't you be at least a little suspicious that she's a clone?  Wouldn't replacing the Emperor with a Rebellion loyal clone be at the top of their to-do list?  If they didn't have any Emperor DNA from which to create a clone, wouldn't getting that DNA be at the top of their list?

Or replacing him with a shapeshifter?

Back to Mrebo's question (can I call you Max?)-

I wouldn't keep any of those characters, but that might just be me.  I didn't find Watto or Quigonn to be interesting or "Star Warsy" in the least.  005 used to run a Watto fansite, and I know a lot of members of this board have a spot for Quigonn... but in the words of Lina Lamont, "I can' stan' 'im."

Max is fine ;D

I agree about Qui Gon. And I don't care for Liam Neeson. He does good movies but there's something weird about him.

About Watto, he had a certain charm and a well developed character. I am predisposed to loathe everything from the PT but I do think certain elements from the PT could work in a properly done movie. And though GL's movies are now more machine than man...I do think Watto represents the better part of his instincts (albeit in CG). And I would want any PT to reflect the general tastes of GL that made Star Wars what it was.

I suppose many of us would have to unlearn what we have learned in order to see anything from the PT without visions of Christensen and Lloyd flooding our minds.

EDIT: What notable element would you keep if any, xhonzi?

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     I thought the "Sports Bar" sequence worked well enough as-is. It was straight-forward and to-the-point.

     I thought it might be fun to do a little more of a play on Luke entering the cantina. An attempt to capture that sinking into the den. The danger could come from any corner as we survey the scene with Luke. More monsters. Accelerating as Obi is at the bar. Flashes in every direction of monsters. Obi's distracted from searching with his feelings then-sudden draw and quick replacement of the sabre (like Qui in Theed).

    Try to torment the audience as much as possible with rising tension :)

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Mrebo said:

 

EDIT: What notable element would you keep if any, xhonzi?

Ughh.....  hard question.  I usually like to frame my thoughts in terms of "completely- 100% ignoring anything from the 1998-2007 timeframe" and going with that.

But Ewan MacGregor was pretty decent.  He especially had the right look in RotS.  I think with proper lines and direction he could be worth keeping.  Or not, it wouldn't break my heart.

And the new Y-Wing design that shows what they looked like in their prime is pretty good.

And...  that's about all I can think of.  There might be one or two things I'm forgetting.  Some of the landscapes weren't bad- Utupau (sp?) isn't a bad design for a new environment.

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I would keep Ric Olie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's it.

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What would I keep? That's a hard one to answer. There are elements/characters from the PT I felt had potential, or the potential for potential (XD) - that they could have been very good if they had been heavily thought/fleshed out, but are very, very weak as they are.

I'd keep Padmé, Qui-Gon, Maul, Dooku, and Grevious, but I'd heavily retool them, so much so that they'd only superficially resemble the originals.

As for what I'd keep intact (or relatively intact):

The dogmatic/legalistic nature of the Jedi. The idea that the Jedi, a less than perfect arrogance-fueled organization, practically set one of their own up for the fall is one with much potential, and sets the whole fall of Anakin, the destruction of the old Jedi Order, the rise of Luke, and the creation of the new Jedi Order in a whole new, interesting, and inspiring light.

Watto. I can't help but like him. I'd just make him more sinister - to make him more suitable as an antagonist.

The "deathsticks" scene. I love the exchange between Obi-Wan and Elan Sleazebaggano (that is a stupid name, isn't it) and Obi-Wan's nonchalant tone of voice and demeanour. I know a lot of OOT fans hate this scene, but other than the "Sleazebaggano" name, I just don't see what the problem with it is.

I like Dex. I don't like the CGI he's made of, but I like his personality. I'd definately stick him in somewhere.

And ... that's all I've got for now.