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The 1985 mix has much less dynamic range and the 1993 mix added new sound effects. That's the main difference from my memory.
The 1985 mix has much less dynamic range and the 1993 mix added new sound effects. That's the main difference from my memory.
zombie84 said:
The 1985 mix has much less dynamic range and the 1993 mix added new sound effects. That's the main difference from my memory.
Also didn't the 85 mix include 3PO's tractor beam line?
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DTS said:
Star Wars: The Complete Saga will be in DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1.
From DTS Facebook page.
Pretty silly of them to not include "HD" in the press release. Of course, they also misspelled "conversation," so there you go.
dark_jedi said:
I know, but NOTHING at all being said here or anywhere is going to change that, I have accepted that, why can't you? so why sit and bicker aimlessly at something WE are not going to change?
Maybe it makes us feel better? Maybe we appreciate that we are not alone in our frustration.
I could easily flip your point and say that NOTHING you say here is going to change the way we feel about the current situation or stop us from enjoying conversing about it with fellow fans who feel the same way. I've always appreciated you and the contributions you make to this community DJ, so don't take this the wrong way: but you come off sounding like a typical GL apologist when you post gripes like this. Your moaning is every bit as pointless as ours.
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As much as I respect everyone's opinions and try to tolerate all of the quibbling reviews on here, this is just one ongoing debate/arguement that never ceases to end or stop annoying me. Do I think the originals should be included just to appease the die-hard & [really] old-schools fans? Yes. Do I care if they're not included? No. No I don't love every little thing that's been added, however I do appreciate him cleaning up some of the special effects - so I don't let those things bother me. I don't agree that every change he made was for the better, but it's a great saga - deal with it. Once he's made up his mind he's likely not going to change it over a bunch of negative amazon reviews.
Another mindless apologist. That is great some of you have the versions you really want, but why get annoyed at us for lifting our voices to protest the fact that we don't have ours? That fact that guys like this "don't care" and finkishly tell us to "deal with it" is the reason why we feel like we've been rubbed so raw. The fact that we are told to shut up and just accept it is the reason won't be silenced. No, amazon reviews nor our "bitching" on this form won't get us any where. I truly don't expect we will ever see a proper release of the originals, the only slim chance I see of it is George's passing, but even after that I wouldn't hold my breath. But shutting up and accepting it isn't going to accomplish anything either.
I really like how he felt the need to add the word "really" before "old school", just to suggest anyone interested in the originals is partially fossilized and living out their end in a nursing home sleeping with the faces VHS set clutched tightly to their chest every night. I'm for one am not even thirty yet.
Right, we weren't even born when the originals came out. It's not just for fans, its for history. The Academy should be taking back the awards "Star Wars" won because its not the same movie, and you can't watch the version that won the awards.CP3S said:
I really like how he felt the need to add the word "really" before "old school", just to suggest anyone interested in the originals is partially fossilized and living out their end in a nursing home sleeping with the faces VHS set clutched tightly to their chest every night. I'm for one am not even thirty yet.
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CP3S said:
dark_jedi said:
I know, but NOTHING at all being said here or anywhere is going to change that, I have accepted that, why can't you? so why sit and bicker aimlessly at something WE are not going to change?
Maybe it makes us feel better? Maybe we appreciate that we are not alone in our frustration.
I could easily flip your point and say that NOTHING you say here is going to change the way we feel about the current situation or stop us from enjoying conversing about it with fellow fans who feel the same way. I've always appreciated you and the contributions you make to this community DJ, so don't take this the wrong way: but you come off sounding like a typical GL apologist when you post gripes like this. Your moaning is every bit as pointless as ours.
LMAO!, you crack me up, I did have a long winded come back but after reading some of your other posts, I decided not to, just is not worth it, and you can call me whatever you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.
Most people that know me know that I would LOVE to have an official release of the UOT, that is a fucking given, I grew up watching these in the Theaters, but I am a realist, if he has not budged yet, maybe he won't ever, but then again, maybe he will at some point, I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.
I'm also a realist, and if George Lucas is as much of a cold, calculating businessman as he seems, I imagine he'll release the UOT in a few years on Bluray to cash in on both those that demand the originals and those die-hard fans that will buy anything with 'Star Wars' written on it. The same as the GOUT.
Whether it'll be Blu-Ray quality though remains to be seen.
dark_jedi said:
I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.
You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?
brash_stryker said:
I'm also a realist, and if George Lucas is as much of a cold, calculating businessman as he seems, I imagine he'll release the UOT in a few years on Bluray to cash in on both those that demand the originals and those die-hard fans that will buy anything with 'Star Wars' written on it. The same as the GOUT.
Whether it'll be Blu-Ray quality though remains to be seen.
And that is exactly why I said, "but then again, maybe he will at some point".
brash_stryker said:
I'm also a realist, and if George Lucas is as much of a cold, calculating businessman as he seems, I imagine he'll release the UOT in a few years on Bluray to cash in on both those that demand the originals and those die-hard fans that will buy anything with 'Star Wars' written on it. The same as the GOUT.
Whether it'll be Blu-Ray quality though remains to be seen.
I think a small part of him- yet it remains to be large enough- is an idealist. The kind of idealist that wants to supress the original versions of the films.
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asterisk8 said:
dark_jedi said:
I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?
LOL, why does it not surprise me that you are trying to provoke me to say more, I have said all I need to say, read my posts and maybe you will understand, then again, maybe not, you do what you feel you must.
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dark_jedi said:
LMAO!, you crack me up, I did have a long winded come back but after reading some of your other posts, I decided not to, just is not worth it, and you can call me whatever you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.
Most people that know me know that I would LOVE to have an official release of the UOT, that is a fucking given, I grew up watching these in the Theaters, but I am a realist, if he has not budged yet, maybe he won't ever, but then again, maybe he will at some point, I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.
Hmmm, judging by your defensive reaction, you seem to feel like I was attempting to insult you. That isn't the case. I didn't call you anything, I just said that when you make these sort of posts you come off as a typical GL apologist. And you do. I've been on this site for over five years now, I know very well that you are not really one and would love to have the UOT released.
The whole point of my post was explaining to you why we enjoy sharing the way we feel about this with each other. But your reaction says none of that got through. When you jump in and complain about us "bickering every fucking day" it makes it feel like we are at someplace like TF.n, not ot.com.
Expect us to continue our "bickering every fucking day", because this is the place we can go to do so and find other frustrated fans to commiserate with who feel the exact same way. I too am a realist, and my realism tells me the only OOT we are every going to get will be the versions we make for ourselves, which I am very grateful to you for your contributions. As great as those fan made versions are, I am still going to talk about not having an official release with my fellow fans who share that same lament.
I've read your other posts, dark_jedi. All you've done for the last few pages is complain about people who are venting frustration, and pat yourself on the back that you're above all that. Good for you.
"I have said all I need to say"
Great. I look forward to you not responding to this.
dark_jedi said:
asterisk8 said:
You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?
LOL, why does it not surprise me that you are trying to provoke me to say more...
Wow, now you are just coming of as full of yourself. Maybe he is trying to tell you to ask yourself why you are so concerned with the way we are spending our time, and isn't actually trying to "provoke" you into anything.
CP3S said:
dark_jedi said:
asterisk8 said:
You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?
LOL, why does it not surprise me that you are trying to provoke me to say more...
Wow, now you are just coming of as full of yourself. Maybe he is trying to tell you to ask yourself why you are so concerned with the way we are spending our time, and isn't actually trying to "provoke" you into anything.
You know CP3S, maybe you should know what you are talking about first before YOU jump to conclusions, we, meaning asterisk and myself have had issues before, so for him to make that comment does not at all surprise me, is that OK?
And for he record, I am not full of anything but heat, it is hotter than fuck here today, wasn't expecting heat like this for another 2-3 weeks.
At the end of the day, this is a forum for discussion...people are allowed to vent their frustration about the suppression of the OOT if they want to. Obviously the final say is with George, but we can express our dissatisfaction if we want...
dark_jedi said:
You know CP3S, maybe you should know what you are talking about first before YOU jump to conclusions, we, meaning asterisk and myself have had issues before, so for him to make that comment does not at all surprise me, is that OK?
And for he record, I am not full of anything but heat, it is hotter than fuck here today, wasn't expecting heat like this for another 2-3 weeks.
Maybe I did jump to a conclusion, in that case I am sorry.
Anyway, I feel you, I hate intense heat. That's why I try to live in the coldest places possible. Even thinking about it makes me feel all sticky...
CP3S said:
dark_jedi said:
You know CP3S, maybe you should know what you are talking about first before YOU jump to conclusions, we, meaning asterisk and myself have had issues before, so for him to make that comment does not at all surprise me, is that OK?
And for he record, I am not full of anything but heat, it is hotter than fuck here today, wasn't expecting heat like this for another 2-3 weeks.
Maybe I did jump to a conclusion, in that case I am sorry.
Anyway, I feel you, I hate intense heat. That's why I try to live in the coldest places possible. Even thinking about it makes me feel all sticky...
Damn, and it is supposed to be way hotter tomorrow, shit!
but back on topic, You know you guys are right, this is the internet, and it is a Forum, who am I to say who should and who shouldn't complain about the same issues in every post, every day, if that is what needs to happen for some, then who am I to say you shouldn't, I am sorry for anything I have said, it just seems like a waste to me when we have s SO many other topics on this board that we can talk about that are a lot more positive than this, because we all know this for fact, NO UOT this September right? and we also know that we will NOT see any other release for a very, very long time, so hopefully, it will get a release then, at least that is what I hope anyways.
CP3S said:
Another mindless apologist. That is great some of you have the versions you really want, but why get annoyed at us for lifting our voices to protest the fact that we don't have ours?
My guess, and that's just my guess, is that he reads the same thing everywhere. The same way some people here get annoyed that some like the PT or even accept SE as they are (I don't include my self in this group).
I partially agree with dark_jedi. Everyone is free to write what they like, but every since day one, we knew this boxset was not going to have the OOT and yet I assume half of these pages are about complaints about the lack of it (the other half is haljordan try to say the colours will be fixed). ;-)
Alexrd said:
CP3S said:
Another mindless apologist. That is great some of you have the versions you really want, but why get annoyed at us for lifting our voices to protest the fact that we don't have ours?
My guess, and that's just my guess, is that he reads the same thing everywhere. The same way some people here get annoyed that some like the PT or even accept SE as they are (I don't include my self in this group).
I partially agree with dark_jedi. Everyone is free to write what they like, but every since day one, we knew this boxset was not going to have the OOT and yet I assume half of these pages are about complaints about the lack of it (the other half is haljordan try to say the colours will be fixed). ;-)
But this thread is about the upcoming Star Wars BluRay release. And it's on originaltrilogy.com, a website that was created to lobby for the commercial release of the original trilogy. And the original trilogy isn't going to be on the upcoming BluRays. So if you or D_J or anyone else doesn't want to read fulmination about the exclusion of the OOT, then why bother even reading this thread on this website? We're a bunch of original trilogy fans who just found out the original trilogy isn't coming out on the upcoming set; what else do you expect us to talk about in a thread dedicated to the discussion of the BluRay release?
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Akwat Kbrana said:
But this thread is about the upcoming Star Wars BluRay release. And it's on originaltrilogy.com, a website that was created to lobby for the commercial release of the original trilogy. And the original trilogy isn't going to be on the upcoming BluRays. So if you or D_J or anyone else doesn't want to read fulmination about the exclusion of the OOT, then why bother even reading this thread on this website?
Since when this thread on this website is about the exclusion of the OOT? I thought, as the title indicates, it was about the Blu-ray boxset. People come to this thread to learn more info about it that other members find and post.
We're a bunch of original trilogy fans who just found out the original trilogy isn't coming out on the upcoming set;
Just found out? It was announced from the start.
what else do you expect us to talk about in a thread dedicated to the discussion of the BluRay release?
Maybe discuss the actual Blu-ray release.
^This. Well put.
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