I don't know but it seems like we're not looking at the same pictures. The GOUT is grossly undersaturated, there's no question about that and the only picture in which you can see skin tones is the one with Luke, which is over-all redder than either the SE or the GOUT (both very blue cast), because I colour timed it to resemble the technicolour photo (while compensating for its overexposure). And the red skin is very natural in that shot, because he's looking at a red sunset and is illuminated by it. And as to the saturation, it's already considerably lowered and I'm not going any lower with it, because that way I'd soon get to the GOUT levels.