It's okay. The parts that I watched I didn't get spoilers from.Gaffer Tape said:
Oh, yeah. Crap. I didn't realize you hadn't seen it at all. I hope I didn't spoil anything for you. But, honestly, though, the one about the finale, assuming you know what happens to Jadzia in season 6, and you already know what happens to Worf, doesn't really contain any spoilers. But, yeah, you should definitely stay away from "Season 7 Jake."
Actually no, I didn't know the makeup change was due to sensitive skin. I just assumed it was just a makeup change due to time. That definitely would've been interesting if there were different Trill races. Thanks for the info!
Holy crap! I didn't even think about that TNG episode! You're right. This is a little bit off topic, but I'm sure you know that the altered the Trill makeup for DS9 due to Terry Farrell's sensitive skin. But I think it would have been nice if they'd included some Trill who resembled the one we saw in TNG. It would help explain away some of the inconsistencies if it was just said that there are different races of Trill who look different and react to the symbiont in different ways.
And, yeah, I always thought it was hypocritical that she couldn't "rejoin" with Lenara, but it was perfectly fine that she could keep her best friend. I thought about mentioning that, but I figured the video was long enough already. =P
I guess I should say that I really do enjoy the episode overall. In fact, most of the moments I mention come from episodes that are otherwise pretty competent.
It's hard for me to say, honestly. Not that I really have my finger on the pulse of general DS9 opinion, but it does seem that my opinion on the matter is somewhat aberrant to the norm. Profit and Lace almost always seems to top worst DS9 episodes lists, but I've never seen Valiant on one. I don't think I can explain why I dislike Valiant more than I already have. As for Profit and Lace, I suppose part of it will come in how much you enjoy/appreciate the Ferengi episodes to begin with. If you already don't care for them, I don't see Profit and Lace being the one that's going to win you over, and you'll probably hate it even more than the other Ferengi episodes. But I do like those episodes, and I do like that it helps tie up the Moogie sexual revolution plot line. I probably agree with the makers of the episode that it goes a little bit too far into the camp, gender-bender slapstick routine and maybe deserved to be a little more serious. But I'm honestly a fan of gender-bending plotlines to begin with, so I found it a really funny piece of fluff. Had the entire Moogie subplot been nothing but that, I probably wouldn't have liked it. But as just a silly episode of Quark as a woman fending off amorous advances with just a hint of family issue subtext, I think it works okay.Hm, I guess I'm stuck with just watching the episodes and, forming my own oppinion... I mean I do like the gender change cliche. Yet, I dislike the Ferengi episodes...
Hmm, I don't know if I'd call it "executive meddling" other than the writers sorta backing themselves into a corner. Particularly with the Quark example. You can't NOT have him on the show, so... I guess just sweep it under the rug and hope no one notices. And once again, I did like this episode. I pretty much like anything that explores the Trills.I like the Trill episodes too! Well like I said it was just a gut feeling. I'm prepared to be wrong about it.
As for Worf, I'd probably have to just chalk it up to not having enough time to deal with it while wrapping up the series, and the whole issue of them having multiple writers working on this long story arc. That's why I would have given it a pass probably if not for the Klingon fans jumping all over me for me daring to question their laws. =P
Ah, I see.RE: Worf deadbeat dad. I'm a bit ambivalant about this myself.In a way, I am too. They certainly earn big points for EVENTUALLY bringing Alexander back and acknowledging that Worf had screwed up. Those episodes were good. And if Worf had never been a character on TNG, and this was the first we'd seen of him, I also probably wouldn't have called it a stupid idea--just an interesting character flaw. I guess I just objected to building all this up over on TNG only to completely flip-flop Worf when he got to DS9.
Heh, what makes you think I wasn't aware of that already? You assume too much. I know about all the controversy. But I don't really know anything about Babylon 5 enough to make that judgment for myself. I've never even seen Babylon 5. So I don't think it would be fair of me to comment on it. If I was a Babylon 5 fan, and the theft is true, I probably would be pissed. But I don't really have a suitable frame of reference, other than just the general knowledge and statements from JMS.Oh well I'm a bigger Babylon 5 fan then Chuck fan. So my bias towards B5 makes it more likely for me to believe that DS9 did rip it off. I did assume but, I assumed you knew. I just assumed you didn't think of it as a low point for DS9 or, were just talking about in show content. Either way I just felt like finding that podcast again and, posting that info. I also just wanted to give my own personal view on the lowest point. Babylon 5 is well worth checking out by the way.
So that's my response. Hope it's comment worthy enough for you!
Oh, of course! This is fun! Thanks for taking the time to respond!
No problem!
