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Captainsolo's laserdisc transfers: Bond and a few others (Released)

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These are the transfers I’ve done with what I have on a crummy school Mac.

The transfers were done with a Pioneer CLD-D504.

Work chain: Imported LD and digital audio into Final Cut Pro in a lossless DV codec, cut together with any dropouts fixed with VHS if necessary, Scaled to fit a 16:9 anamorphic sequence, Exported as lossless quicktime mov, converted to Apple ProRes 422HQ, brought into Compressor and exported at maximum bitrate and Dolby ac3 @ 448 kbp/s (Surround encoded if necessary) with Reverse Telecine, DVD built and encoded in DVD Studio Pro to an .img file.

The Spy Who Loved Me-1989 LD with Theatrical Dolby Stereo Surround

You Only Live Twice-1989 LD with Theatrical Mono

Fan Filtration is working on a perfected transfer with the Connery Collection. I also did a transfer of the Connery Collection Vol. 1 since I had it, but I did no tweaking or correcting with any of these. They are all straight transfers of the LDs with just reverse telecine done.

Dr. No-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

From Russia With Love-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

Goldfinger-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

I also just started work on the 1993 edition of Chinatown which has an isolated score that will be included.

The Spy DVD is completed and depending on comments the others will soon be fully authored. I thought I would go ahead and start a thread for this project so that people could chime in with their thoughts. These certainly won’t be the best thing ever seen, but they serve the purpose I originally intended. And please, if you see anything that can be fixed or made better say so.

I also have done a transfer of the 97SE set and will probably make a separate thread for that in the SW Preservations forum.

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Here's a few really quick random caps from the Spy transfer. I simply did a quick screengrab in quicktime so they aren't all matched in their frame sizes.

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captainsolo said:

Dr. No-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

From Russia With Love-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

Goldfinger-1992 Connery Collection with 2.0 mono

Wow sweet! Sorry captainsolo, I just noticed this thread while browsing through the forum. I'd be interested in these three even if there's just IVTC'ing done. Were you ever planning to share these?

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I did these late at night in my old school's editing lab. The player and capture device I had access to wasn't the greatest and the Macs fought me every step of the way. I didn't have time to really go through them frame by frame so on some of the discs there are a few glitched frames here and there.(by this I mean frames that appear as color blobs/bars/snow and sometimes with a brief audio dropout etc.)

I'd like to redo these with my own player as soon as I build my own editing PC. (If I can ever save up enough! ;)

If you'd like to have the ones I did finish that's no problem, but they are very very rough. I tried all kinds of things on these transfers just to see what was possible on the software I could use.  Each is a dual layer, hand scaled 16:9 disc. I did the scaling by hand because I couldn't get measurements to look right and I wanted to not crop any part of the frame-especially on the 1.66:1 titles. Gosh, that was a nightmare trying to measure and anamorphicize!

The IVTC I chose looks good for the most part, but I'm not really happy with the overall picture. The sound was originally to be PCM but I couldn't get an authoring that would work so I just encoded everything at 448 ac3. Dolby Surround titles are encoded as such.

Work chain: Imported LD and digital audio into Final Cut Pro in a lossless DV codec, cut together with any dropouts fixed with VHS if necessary, Scaled to fit a 16:9 anamorphic sequence, Exported as lossless quicktime mov, converted to Apple ProRes 422HQ, brought into Compressor and exported at maximum bitrate and Dolby ac3 @ 448 kbp/s (Surround encoded if necessary) with Reverse Telecine, DVD built and encoded in DVD Studio Pro to an .img file.

Titles done: (Dual Layer, 16:9, Trailers+Logos included if present)

Connery Collection Vol. 1: 1.66:1, 2.0 mono@448 kbp/s

SW Trilogy 97 SE+Doc: 2.35:1, 2.0 Dolby Surround encoded@ 448 kbp/s

The Spy Who Loved Me-1991 LD-2.35:1, 2.0 Dolby Surround encoded@ 448

You Only Live Twice-1989 LD-2.35:1, 2.0 mono@448

Chinatown-1993 LD-2.35:1, 2.0 mono, 2.0 isolated score@448

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“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
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captainsolo said:


If you'd like to have the ones I did finish that's no problem, but they are very very rough. I tried all kinds of things on these transfers just to see what was possible on the software I could use.

Out of curiosity how did you handle the subtitles for Star Wars? Did you create nice hardcoded ones?
Despite, you describing this as rough they sound quite polished to me... After all they're IVTC'ed and made anamorphic.
I truthfully am interested in these, mostly the Star Wars SE set and the Connery Collection (mostly due to your highly positive evaluation of it in FanFiltration's thread). How would you share them?

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I managed to get the subs in the black bar letterbox area where they originally were by making a separate copy of each subtitle shot and then scaling to 16:9, shrinking the area to fit and cropping off everything but the subs, and then overlaying that on top of the black bottom letterbox of the main transfer. All in all it works pretty well. I didn't like the FCP text much anyway.

I'll probably upload these somewhere. Will shoot you a PM when I do so.

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Your subtitle method sound pretty sweet since it would look the same quality as in the laserdisc. To be honest I'm tired of when official DVDs cheap out and use the subtitle track.

I look forward to whenever you upload them... unless it's the newsgroups (I have no access). When I see them, I'll be sure to give you any feedback you may need.

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These sound interesting. To be honest I still do not know a lot of the technical things going on. But I would love to see some of these if they are uploaded. Especially the SW 97 transfers. Sounds very interesting. I need to get my laser discs out soon for a spin again.

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No thunderball pre THX and full picture?, the fanfiltration version never was released.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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When i capture laserdiscs with my Intensity Pro - i end up with a ProRes 422 file that has the telecine in it - but Compressor cannot seem to get rid of it when using the reverse telecine setting in Frame Controls.

 

I would be eternally grateful if you could post your capture settings and explain how you get a final 23.98p video file from the LD?

 

Thanks a ton.

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Thread bump.

Hey, captainsolo, are you planning to release/upload any of these transfers? I'd be interested to see them, especially The Spy Who Loved Me with stereo track. The SE DVD is one of the worse of the SE DVD line, really heavy compression; on the other hand, the UE DVD and the HDTV rip are really sharpened and de-saturated.

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Ahh..I've gone back over these and they're pretty bad. The player image wasn't the best to start with and in trying to fight some of the bad combing that came out of the Spy transfer it had made the image appear a bit soft, and the LD was already soft. It also continually fights the grain that was on the transfer, something that the DVDs simply have as video noise. The print used is a bit worn, so there are a few big glue spots, and the audio even has what appears to be a tearing noise during the "ride to atlantis" sequence. I wasn't ever able to fully match the side break either, and that was using VHS frames in addition to the LD.

I also think the cheapo capture card I had to use may have had something to do with this.

I think the best thing to do with TSWLM is to utilize the LD audio with either the THX or SE DVD. Despite their flaws they look miles better than this particular pressing and retain all proper colors etc. I've gone back and forth between the two DVDs and I think the THX may be slightly-and I mean very slightly-better. The 5.1 mix isn't bad, and actually keeps the mix identity. It was very well done from the Dolby Stereo original and does not really have much if any stereo separation in the surrounds. This should be the exact one done for the 98 LD when they knew how to upmix properly.

After extensive comparison between all, I think TSWLM had a video master done in say 1989/1990 for LD and this was later scrubbed and applied with EE for the 98 LD and THX DVD. Then this was ported to the SE disc with perhaps a bit more compression for the added features. The UE utilized the video master but Lowry went overboard in scrubbing and completely re-timed the film to suit modern sensibilities.

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captainsolo said:

Ahh..I've gone back over these and they're pretty bad.

That's unfortunate. I'd have tried getting a copy and capturing myself, but my LD to DVD results are less than stellar. My player seems to add EE, and there's a ridiculous amount of noise.

I think the best thing to do with TSWLM is to utilize the LD audio with either the THX or SE DVD.

Sorry for being a greedy lump, but do you mind uploading the audio from your rip then? That part should be fine enough quality, and I'd love to hear the original audio. I'd sync it to my SE DVD.

I've gone back and forth between the two DVDs and I think the THX may be slightly-and I mean very slightly-better.

Interesting. I can never find any of the THX DVDs. The open matte versions of some of the earlier films would be interesting for their extra image. Out of curiosity, have you done a proper bit rate/size comparison on your computer, or are you just eye-balling it?