ok well i am about to begin on the subs! i did a lot of work on the dvd main menu today. the dvd is fully authored and i made a test copy mounted and looked at everything in the menus and tested all the media. i had a problem with audio sync in 2 of the special features. but figured it out i believe. i had set the framerate for those to videos in dvd architect to 23.976 fps and they are 29.970 videos. so fixed that and everything is looking golden. as for the subs. since only a few had an opinion it looks like a draw straws deal. so for me i think i will go with yellow ariel black outline black dropshadow its simple and means less work since they are already ariel. thanks for all the input guys. it wont be long now.