helvetica is a pay font. and franklin i did not like any of them. as for the drop shadow yeah down to the right would be good. size 16 font takes up way to much screen real estate. i think unless i am voted down i really like the bookman font i know its not the original style but hey this is a fanedit. the only other font i will use is ariel. and the outline adds definition bigtime. in certain scenes with no outline the subs are very much not defined against the picture after playing with it for hours i decided the outline is a must. any red is out for sure as it just looks blury. so its yellow text with black effects. if anyone wants to post some mockups like from photoshop of what they like feel free i am still open but one way or another this edit is going to be finalized tonight. thanks for input as always ash you have a good eye for detail.