ok i get it now. but upon trying to encode it both cce and tmpgenc freeze. i dont know why because i did an os reboot right before i edited this to make sure i had a clean system with as little video gear as possible. the only installed programs for video are adobe ae and premier, gordian knot, cinema craft and tmpgenc. but there must be a conflict with something. right now i have 2 choices either learn how to make the .avs script and try hcencoder or reboot again and install nothing but my encoder. of course this means copying the 53 gb edit over to an external and then copying it back to the new os. either way i am on the last encoding step and now it decides to be a royal pia.. i did a search on cce freezing and it seems it is a problem for a lot of people.support basically said its a problem with your computer. the usual generic answer. this sucks but i am about to start uninstalling everything on this computer.