SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 50

Bob you managed to remove the "don't underestimate my powers" line by motion tracking. It might be productive if you removed the same way the "I'd certainly like to" line when Anakin is pointing Palpatine with his sabre. Make him remain silent for a more Vaderish attitude.

Mithrandir said:

... Make him remain silent for a more Vaderish attitude.

Well, that's the thing.

Hayden ain't that bad of an actor, it's the dialogue that makes him seem like an idiot. Bob's version of The Opera Scene proved that when you remove some of his lines and make him a bit more silent - he says a lot more with his body language and facial expressions.

That's what I think, anyway...

Yes, ofc. My question, tho, was whether it's technically plausible or it would mean a lot of work to do it. I still can't meassure with precision how much work do some ideas imply.

I mean, you could do this by just erasing the line of Anakin and editing the scene, or by making VFX for a shot and replacing Anakins mouth/face and keep that shot of Anakin now staring coldly at Palpatine. (the same mad man face we'll see in Mustafar later).

Bob is there any chance that you use some cutted dialogue from the duel against Dooku, in Mustafar?

In ROTJ Vader says "ObiWan once thought as you do" to Luke... and you have this line "this time we will do it together" by ObiWan... perhaps you could manage to insert it at some point of the dialogue as a last attempt ot Kenobi to recover his friend, and what's more could be an autocritical sentence (while in the original dialogue that line was ObiWan scolding Anakin, now it could be "hey, we've been wrong pulling you aside, please join us to destroy palps, this time we'll do it together")

I'm assuming that grey one is a drawing.....not a 3d render that can be applied in motion?

A wild guess, is it from Metropolis, Angel? Anyway, love what you did with it. Nice blend between the concept paintings McQuarrie did and the Coruscant from the movies.

vaderios said:

Teaser!

Guess the shot ;)

From where to where?

-Angel

Is this for the edit?

In motion please? =)

You know who you are asking, right?

Oh no, did I just see Katie and Georgie in blue paint?  Please tell me you're going to get rid of them ;-)

That's a nice start. Can't imagine how much time it took just to do that. Nice job, Bob.

No one has responded to this? TMBTM, nice work, man... No surprise though. Clean, looks official, and it looks OT all the way. Excellent.

It will take a lot of work to get that Metropolis building to merge in with the existing material or is that not the plan?

Bob, I have a new idea for your edit that could help you bonding even more in bonding Anakin and Obiwan as friends and workteam. It's a little invasive in the plot and would require some reference in the crawl, and editing both in ROTS as in an AOTC future edit. The changes needed are rather simple, easily doable and minimal, Vaderios could garantee so. There's also a nice moral question that would be left in the air at the end of AOTC.

Resuming, the idea is: Not all the Jedi agree in joining the clone wars as generals. There's a faction led by Mace windu who don't join the grand army after Geonosis. Though there's never actually a break-up within the order, there are disagreements in what to do.

Mace Windu and co. reject joining the war, and want to keep an eye on the senate (erase yoda's dialogue in the council season where they decide throw down palpatin from office) and act on their own when they go to arrest palpatine. As Windu never directly serve palpatine's manipulative objective, there's a new taste for palpatine in killing him the way he did, isn't it?

Yoda, Anakin, ObiWan and KiAdiMundi (the latter just because his protagonism in order 66 sequence) join the army, and usually go abroad.

This way you would be establishing:

a) Anakin/Vader's passion for military operations

b) Anakin and ObiWan being in some way separated from the "rest" of the Jedi, which would make them be more tied for the spectator, as I said, they would be in a way, the Lennon/McCartneys of the order. (you could chain this with other ideas I had about how to bond them in order to have a far more character-centred movie)

c) THE MORAL ISSUE at the end of AOTC regarding the Jedi should fight or stand for peace.

d) THE MORAL ISSUE in the OT of having Vader, ObiWan, and Yoda be responsible of fixing what their former actions did.

As usual, a long post for a rather simple idea. Bob, I have been making some mp3's about the proposed dialogue for the scenes. 3 changes would set this subplot, 2 of them are in ROTS, so if you are interested in this, let me know and I'll PM you.

Cheers, and sorry for the dense post