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kaine23 said:

What exactly is the PURIST remix?

Hairy_Hen originally did 5.1 upmixes of Empire and Jedi that included music not present in the original theatrical release (for Empire, it was the scene where Boba Fett takes off with Han - he restored the natural end of the cue as heard in the '97/'04 SE; for Jedi, he added in the never-before-used-in-any-version-of-the-movie cue when Luke talks to Ben's ghost on Dagobah).

In order to use 5.1 upmixes for this and similar preservation projects, HH also made "purist" versions of Empire and Jedi that remove these music changes, so that there's no content in the mixes that wasn't in the original theatrical releases.

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Screw it, getting a dual dvd burner and disks on Amazon.

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msycamore said:

I forgot to ask you d_j, did you ever update this DVD set? Just wonder if I should download this or is it identical to the "test-discs?"

Something I just found out LOL, I actually do NOT have the discs you guys have anymore, I thought I backed them up but did not, so the versions you guys have are the only ones like that.

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Man, I watched star wars last night and must repeat everyone else and say this is the best I've seen Star Wars. Thank you. I'm currently sitting down to watch empire.

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Hey D_J, quick question.
I compared your ESB GOUT v3 to ady's ESB Theatrical, and noticed a remarkable difference in brightness, contrast, etc... (see below).
What was done differently exactly?
Ady's original OT post (also see below) mentions he used the colour-corrected version, so are we to assume yours isn't corrected?
(I left out his original screenshots btw)

adywan said:

Specs:

Video:-      NTSC DVD 16:9 Anamorphic DVD-5
Audio:-      5.1 dolby digital surround
Subtitles:- None
Menus:-     None

Created using the colour corrected ESB version used for my AVCHD '97 SE, elements of the GOUT and other higher quality elements to improve theatrical scenes eg. matte painting scans

Now this isn't a 100% true theatrical version as i didn't want to use the low quality GOUT to replace the newly zoomed and cropped cockpit shots that appear in the SE version but all of the SE elements have been removed. There are a few shots that i had to use the GOUT but i have used some filters and mixed in other higher quality elements where possible so the change in quality doesn't jump out at you like it would if i had just replaced a shot with the GOUT.

The audio has been created using the laserdisc SE 5.1, an upmix from the PCM laserdisc track,surround channels from the 2004 DVD & music soundtrack.

I know that there is some projects going on at the moment that are recreating the theatrical versions, but with the 30th anniversary of ESB getting so close it doesn't look like any of them will be appearing in time so i hope i don't piss anyone off by jumping in with this version.

It will be a barebones DVD with no menus or subtitles

Now the mpeg rendering and DVD authoring will be completed overnight and will start appearing in the a.b.starwars newsgroup Wednesday evening and should be completed uploading the following day, so plenty of time to get it for the 30th anniversary on Friday

Theatrical Reconstruction:

Gout v3:

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For 1 thing he did not use the Limited Edition bonus disc for his source, and I did not do any extensive color correcting, it is just to hard to get everything right for everyone, but for the record, I prefer the V3 color there as apposed to the other screen, it looks to SE to me and not OT, this whole color debate is just to hard to deal with and I will just leave it at that.

Also, not to start a war or anything, but who says that the top screen is 100% correct? how do we even know what is 100% correct?

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The top shot looks like Luke is at the beach on a sunny day.  The bottom (v3) shot looks Luke is on a cold freezing stormy tundra.

Evidently the v3 hits the mark.  The original SW filmmakers may have color corrected this particular scene toward a bluish tint to suggest coldness.  This is an artistic application of lighting.

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Dufusyte said:

The top shot looks like Luke is at the beach on a sunny day.  The bottom (v3) shot looks Luke is on a cold freezing stormy tundra.

Evidently the v3 hits the mark.  The original SW filmmakers may have color corrected this particular scene toward a bluish tint to suggest coldness.  This is an artistic application of lighting.

I couldn't agree with you more, well put.

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Yeah, I believe Ady has even acknowledged that the color correction was not too extensive - at least, he said he would keep Hoth a bit bluer for Revisited than he did.

I'm flipping through Star Wars and I'm thoroughly impressed, DJ. Thank you so much for your contribution to the community - and, of course, everyone else who made this possible.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Will anyone be making a dvd cover for this for a 3-pack dvd set?

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kaine23 said:

Will anyone be making a dvd cover for this for a 3-pack dvd set?

 

If I were you, I'd take your 2004 box set (assuming you have one) with the cool silver image on either side. Then I'd take those DVD's (except for the bonus disc) and THROW THEM AWAY. Then put your nice new DVD's in the box.

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motorheadache95 said:

kaine23 said:

Will anyone be making a dvd cover for this for a 3-pack dvd set?

 

If I were you, I'd take your 2004 box set (assuming you have one) with the cool silver image on either side. Then I'd take those DVD's (except for the bonus disc) and THROW THEM AWAY. Then put your nice new DVD's in the box.

That image gets old after seven years. :p

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dark_jedi said:

Dufusyte said:

The top shot looks like Luke is at the beach on a sunny day.  The bottom (v3) shot looks Luke is on a cold freezing stormy tundra.

Evidently the v3 hits the mark.  The original SW filmmakers may have color corrected this particular scene toward a bluish tint to suggest coldness.  This is an artistic application of lighting.

I couldn't agree with you more, well put.

Of course I agree as well, but I was only asking :)
Thanks for the feedback d_j.

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I just finished watching the entire V3 trilogy in one sitting (OK, I had a break for dinner, so shoot me).

I can only say it is fantastic. The colours are excellent, not oversaturated, not washed out - just perfect in my view. Sound is excellent on my 5.1, picture is brilliant on my 46" LG, and it is everything I have been waiting for. Let me put it this way, Carrie is so HOT once again! :D I think she looked best at the end of SW when she gave them the medals.

Moving on, not counting the prequels, I really fear what George is going to do next with the upcoming Blu release. Maybe he'll reshoot that "let me look at you with my own eyes" scene of ROTJ with Haydn instead.. !

No, for me, these are the definitive Star Wars movies. DJ and team have managed something truly fantastic. I can't decide whether I should be more grateful or more in awe of the sheer hard work done here. Maybe both? :D

In the mean time, here is a question that's been bugging me for a long time, maybe someone can enlighten me..

In SW, C3P0 says "There'll be no escape for the princess this time", then later, upon viewing the recording from R2, he says "It's someone of some importance I presume, a passenger from our last voyage". My question is, from the first statement (which is right at the beginning), it seems to imply that C3P0 knows who Leia is (and quite a bit about what she does no less), so why is C3P0 acting like he doesn't know who she is when he sees the recording? OK, so C3P0 is not exactly the smartest nail in the box, still.. ;)

OK, didn't mean to ramble OT - ignore me. Just have a GOUTv3 high is all :)

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These will be my definitive versions, with Revisited as my "What if's...".

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Maybe 3PO new the Princess was on board but did not know what she looked like, I don't really know.

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starwarsfan8376 said:

I always took that line as 3PO playing dumb...

He was playing dumb a lot in the movies...

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I almost feel silly and old fashioned for asking, but since I could never possibly download 21gb, could someone please send dvds in the mail?  I will gladly return blank discs.  Please PM me; thanks.

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As far as footage goes, we've only seen 3PO mention Leia, but not actually encounter her. The very moment he walked in on her and R2, she jumped away behind a colon. I'm pretty sure someone as 'unimportant' as 3PO, at least on that particular consular ship, never got to see its consul. Therefore, he probably knew of the Princess, and her history, since it was common talk amongst the crew members, but never got to see her in person, which could perfectly explain why he did not know who the lady in the hologram was. Not to mention he got his memory wiped in ROTS.

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No offense to anyone, I, personally, just don't frickin care.  I mean really?  Each person who does a transfer uses their own knowledge, the knowledge of others, and everything they have available to them to share something with everybody.  

I appreciate what everyone has done regardless of how they saw fit to do it.  This is also the reason why I am hesitant to ever share an archive.  I started one and then realized all too soon that issues like these create far more tension than I'm willing to take on.  

I know comparisons are bound to happen, we do it with all the different releases of the OT, why wouldn't fans have their work looked on any different...but at the fan level, it can be far more personal and it really makes this noob squeamish.

Thanks again for all those who take the plunge and offer up their work to this world of fans......cheers!!!!

:)   

 

 

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Jetrell Fo said:

No offense to anyone, I, personally, just don't frickin care.  I mean really?  Each person who does a transfer uses their own knowledge, the knowledge of others, and everything they have available to them to share something with everybody.  

I appreciate what everyone has done regardless of how they saw fit to do it.  This is also the reason why I am hesitant to ever share an archive.  I started one and then realized all too soon that issues like these create far more tension than I'm willing to take on.  

I know comparisons are bound to happen, we do it with all the different releases of the OT, why wouldn't fans have their work looked on any different...but at the fan level, it can be far more personal and it really makes this noob squeamish.

Thanks again for all those who take the plunge and offer up their work to this world of fans......cheers!!!!

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Sorry man but I really do not know what you are trying to say, but the whole don't frickin care gets me, so if you don't, why post?

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Radi0n said:

As far as footage goes, we've only seen 3PO mention Leia, but not actually encounter her. The very moment he walked in on her and R2, she jumped away behind a colon.

ewwwwww..

 

D_J I just watched ESB last night and it was my first experience ever watching a theatrical cut, and now I know what all the hub-bub is about.  It was freakin' awesome!  I can't wait to tell everyone about this.


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LOL, I did not catch that, jumped behind a colon.