ok yeah i realize you guys are right about the field deinterlace and got rid of that. compmovieguy i believe the settings you are speaking of in gordian knot are for the xvid/divx encoding in gordian knot. corrrect me if i am wrong. but i am using gk to create the avs script which i load into vdub to encode to lagarith. so these settings are not changing anything. and moth3r if 3:2 is correct i am confused. most dvd,s i watch have a dar of 16:9. i tried using vegas to set the dar to 16:9. all that did was give me a 16:9 dar of the picture i loaded into vegas with black bars on the sides. i believe the picture needs to be 16:9 to display at 16:9. so those black bars on the sides need to be gone before i load my lagarith into vegas. i am missing something crucial here. nothing in the gk settings has made a difference it is set to 16:9 in the middle column and the crop is turned off. thanks for the continued effort at helping me but i still have black side boarders after trying these steps.