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Going from mkv to lossless AVI is very backwards.  You're converting a lossy format to another lossy format to a lossless format - basically, adding a whole unnecessary step in between that will decrease the quality, however small that decrease may be.

Plus, those subs look really awkward (to me), being half in the letterboxing and half in the frame.  And aren't the subtitles in that scene supposed to be yellow?  I thought they were yellow most of the time, and green every once in a while, but never white.

I still think you should render the m2v to lossless AVI, then do the subtitles yourself in Vegas or Premiere or whatever you decide to use.

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yellow? really i will have to look at my dvd. ahhh ok i know you are right about it all. but maybe the real problem lies with volume 1 since my usa vol 2 dvd rips out at 29.970 interlaced just like the japan source. would it be easier to do a pulldown method on vol 1 to bring it up to 29.970? that is the standard anyway right? i just cant get the vol 2 to work in avs script. but i have not tried that on the us source yet so i will now.

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about the subs ash. the dvd has full english subs which are yellow. but i just want the forced subs. in order to get those i downloaded them from some subtitle site. and that is why they are white. the dvd,s only have full english subs which i believe have a forced flag in them on the us sources. japanese sources do not have that at all. only full english subs. not to mention the vol 2 subs i used were patched to resync them because after ripping them out to srt the subs are off quiet a bit. of course none of that matters if i can do it the right way!

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i hope someones still here i have got the d2v to work finally. i was making a mistake by using dgindex from another folder other then gordian knot. now that i have reached the point of creating the avs script in gordian knot do i change the deinterlace settings in the "save .avs" window before creating the script or do i change that later?

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Here's the deal with subs:

1. The Volume 1 subs, since it's from a Japanese DVD, will be full-movie English subs, no matter what.  You won't be able to download an SRT, because the running times of the US (with forced subs - also note that they probably have two different subtitle tracks, one with just the "forced" subs, and one with all of them) and Japanese (without forced subs) versions will be different.  You're pretty much gonna have to do the subs manually, yourself, using your US DVD as a reference (since, to my knowledge, there are no additional subtitled lines in the Japanese version).

2. Ripping subtitles from a DVD and applying them to the ripped version of the movie itself is going to be nasty business anyway, as DVD subs are designed to run at 29.97 fps, which means they won't sync well at 23.976 fps.

Also, do not edit at 29.97 fps.  That will cause you no end of headaches.  I don't know why Volume 2 keeps having these framerate issues - maybe that's why QtheGajin's edit has interlacing issues.  But you're definitely gonna need to IVTC Volume 2 down to 23.976fps in order to work with it.

And since the US and Japanese DVDs both have the same issue, I guess you can use whichever one you want, depending on how you like that one scene to be edited.

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God, reading all this, I'm glad I'm working with HD for my edits. I use TS Muxer to convert everything to 25fps progressive before use and then convert the final 25fps output to 23,976fps again in TS muxer. But I guess that's not really possible when working with DVD.

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Hey, I just remembered that that's actually how I got rid of the pulldown on Ady's reconstruction DVD. Just load the VOB file into TS muxer and check the "remove pulldown" checkbox and remux as .ts at any framerate you choose. Or you can just demux the raw .mpv file.