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Originally posted by: motti_soL
no free will? fine, this conversation is over.
im sorry SES, it was fun, but i cant talk to someone who thinks his life isnt governed by himself.
You dont have to get pissed off.
Look at it this way. Human beings are like sponges collecting dirt, or a computer injected with information. Every opinion that you have, every decision that you make, is based on learned experience from your life-time. Its impossible for you to make a free will decision without it being motivated by earlier learned experience.
If you do something, or make a decision, how do you know that it wasn't already pre-programmed in the universe?
I just had another thought earlier today. I was thinking about Isaac Newton's prism experiment. When Newton let a ray of light shine through a clear prism, it reflected out the other side as a multi-colored rainbow. When Newton put another prism in the path of the rainbow, the rainbow reflected through the other side as a normal white light again. Prism
Remember when I was talking about doppelgangers and how they create alternate universes to keep the living host's consciousness alive? Well, what if each living thing had its own universe that revolved solely around it. For example: if my consciousness is kept alive through an endless amount of alternate universes it would appear to me that I was immortal, but everything else around me would die. If this kept going on endlessly then eventually the host would be the only living thing in his known universe. That means that it could be quite possible for the host to be floating around in space while everything else (planets, stars, humans, etc..) are dead. What would happen then? Perhaps the last living creature in the universe will evolve into a star, expand, explode, and create a brand new universe like our previous star did.
Consider that the ray of light in the prism experiment represents life, and the first prism represents our previous universe. When the ray of light intersects with the first prism it creates a rainbow, which could represent our known universe. The rainbow could also represent infinite consciousness for individual people in their own alternate universes. The second prism in the experiment represents the end of the known universe for the being. When the being becomes the last being in the universe they might implode into nothingness, but emerge on the other side of the second prism (a second universe) as another ray of light. The ray of light intersects with yet another black universe and creates another planetary universe just like before. This could suggest that life is not only infinite, but it also comes from the same source and it repeats itself endlessly.