since it seems my other thread has been locked i would like to formally post an apology for the thread entitled "project in danger of being scrapped" i am sorry to anyone who read the thread. it got out of control and was pointless. as for my attitude i think i have a great attitude. the original topic was not rude in any way i reread the whole thing word for word. and it started when someone i do not know called me a jerk. and stated i had a bad attitude. i just do not understand how said party came to that conclusion. i asked multiple questions in one topic so i did not have to spread them all over the place. they were normal noob questions. after receiving no responses i used an old tactic that usually brings some attention to a forum post. that is i whined a little bit. call it what you want but it has worked in the past. not the best decision but all the same it was no reason for anyone to start name calling and belittling my character. what followed was a clear cut case of noob bashing. it seems that ridiculing the less informed members of a tech forum is an all time favorite of the super smart people behind there keyboard,s who clearly have serious ego problems. all in all my words were twisted and manipulated to make me out to be the bad guy when in fact all i wanted was to learn. moral of the story is i learned my lesson. never ask a question without first considering the response it will incite.i don,t make a habit of trash talking in forums for any reason but that does not mean i am going to sit back and listen to someone i dont know trash talk me when they do not know me and do not know what contributions i can add to the forum. sorry again for anyone who wasted time reading the crapfest. and i retract all offensive statements posted in defense of myself. its,ok guys i will let it slide.