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Duel of the Fates (* unfinished project *) — Page 5

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eh, I get that, but that also isn't the point. Some of it is very recognizable, even if you can't pinpoint it. I'm trying to use what works best for each scene given my somewhat limited musical knowledge. Honestly, I really like that track. I haven't heard it used that often, and it fits. That's kind of my rationale, I guess haha. But again, this is VERY early. I might end up liking something else better and not using that song at all. Time shall tell.

 

MTH, you are so far the only person that noticed the backward chronology of the trailer. That was the original plan, but it's not anymore. Makes the trailer cool though!

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I'm going to throw out a narration example today or tomorrow, probably just using that Prologue clip. I'm actually writing a script for this edit, which is kind of different, haha. Never done that before.

Some examples:

"Vader: For a thousand generations, the Galaxy was at peace. The Jedi knights, guardians of justice, protected the people of The Galactic Republic. They represented all that was good. But whenever there is light, there must also be darkness."

"Vader: Tattooine. Strange that this mission would lead me back to the one planet I have avoided for two decades. It’s where I am from. Where the Jedi found me. Where it all began."

Since I did a lot of screenwriting in college, this project is becoming a lot of fun for me. I haven't flexed those muscles in a long time.

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a vader narration would be cool! plus i guess it would be the easiest voice to imitate.

are you going to include any colour on an artistic level? like in schindler's list?

also, what is the name of the philip glass track? its pretty cool. the arcanum soundtrack (which is available free online) has a good selection of string music.

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That's a combination of tracks from his Dracula soundtrack.

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SpenceEdit said:

Well, the music is going to be from all different sources for the entire duration of the movie.

But, what Ash said is exactly how I feel:

I understand this, but whenever I hear that particular track I immediately think "Whoever picked this is lazy."  The original version was perfect for Requiem for a Dream, and the remix was perfect for the Two Towers trailer.

Every other time it's been used since then, I groan.  I'd go with something less recognizable, if I were you.

Look:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=star+wars+requiem+for+a+dream&aq=0

 

821 results.

 

I highly, highly recommend choosing another piece.  Despite your personal feelings about it, I'm just telling you how any Star Wars fan that has seen fan videos on Youtube will see it.

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I highly, highly recommend choosing another piece.

 No.

And I would like to table the discussion of using Requiem/Two Towers. I'm sorry if you youtube fans no longer want to watch the edit, but I'm confident in my choice of using it, and will not be changing my mind. I don't want this entire thread to be about one 2 minute song in a 3 hour fanedit.

I'd also like to point out that this song is overused in youtube videos, which are not giant, sprawling fanedits. It's a song that's been used in a trailer and in some silly videos on the web. I'm giving it a home, inside of a narrative, where it means something. So if you can't look past the fact that some dude made a video of himself chasing a cat around a garden with that song in the background then, well, go away.

So basically, it's staying.

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SpenceEdit said:

 ... some dude made a video of himself chasing a cat around a garden with that song in the background....

 Link please!   XoD

 Spoiler free for the ST

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Joking, but that actually might be a good idea.

Look out, interwebs. Video number eight hundred and twenty-TWO coming your way.

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Am I allowed to post an MU link to a test clip in this thread?
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Havnt seen your clips yet, will watch when i get home didnt expect you to get so stuck into this after Jedi! - no-one has mentioned voice actors yet! do you need to find your Darth Vader or is that already sorted out?

You can never go home again, but i guess you can shop there.

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It's me actually!

There's going to be voice overs for the Neimoidians and General Grievous. Some by me, some by actor friends. I'm also doing Vader and the narration. Probably leaving Hayden in as Anakin's dialogue, though I'm still contemplating dubbing him myself. That can create complications with the narration though. We'll see.

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Hey nice video, the black and white style works well - i thought the flaring effect from light was a bit overpowering it seems to obscure the scene too much at times, but not sure if thats the same in the source you were using.

The narration was good, sounded proffessional, I thought the writing and voice acting might be the hardest things to pull off convincingly but it seems to come naturally to you.

Its good to actually get a strong sense of War from a Star Wars movie and thats what your prologue sets up quite nicely.

It will be good to see what you have in store next :)

edit: didnt comment on the music as enough's already been said about that - but seem like good choices so far

 

 

You can never go home again, but i guess you can shop there.

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Wow! That was an epic first 8 minutes! The voice over work was nicely done, not sounding "fan-made" or bad quality, if you know what I mean. If you can maintain that quality of voice acting, then I would definitely suggest overdubbing Hayden just for consistency. Anyway, this makes me eager to see the final product when it comes out. The use of black and white is very nice. I thought that the animated footage might bother me, but it doesn't. The black and white makes it bland perfectly. Also, the music built up such a rich atmosphere absent from the real Prequel Trilogy. The use of the "Requiem for a Dream" music was fine with me. It does blend in well with the atmosphere you're creating. The font at the end is also nice; I would stick with it. :-) I do hope you continue work on this. This looks like it'll be my favorite fan edit yet. You seem to be making a tragedy of Citizen Kane-like proportions.

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SpenceEdit said:

Am I allowed to post an MU link to a test clip in this thread?

Yes.

See Rule 4.

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That "flaring" effect is just for the prologue, to give it a different feel from the rest of the story.

I'm glad you enjoyed the clip, the response has been really good, and none of the actual movies have been shown yet!

I played with that clip a bit more, taking out some of the more "video game" moments, like the slow motion and stuff. In fact, it looks even more badass when those slow motion moments happen at regular speed.

I'm going to be a little tighter with clips and preview on this than I was with ROTJ, mainly because this is so different from a standard edit that I usually do, I want to maintain some surprises!

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Wow, that clip was impressive. Perfect except for a couple things, I would have made a couple cuts, making it a bit more of a streamlined prologue (the bounty hunter flying up to the window, the guy looking at the droid, etc.) but I understand if it interferes withe the musical timing, which was excellent. The other is the Voice Over background noise. That could really break the edit for me.

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Just saw the Teaser. Can I give a suggestion?

Keep the entire thing in B&W, but have Anakin in colour. Whenever he does a dark deed, lower his saturation slightly so that it isn't too noticeable but that by the end, he is completely B&W, with the exception of his eyes (yellow) - symbolizing how he was the chosen one and the person who was supposed to save them all but he blended into nothingness. Also you could keep the lasers and sabers in colour.

Something like that would take a long time, but if you like the idea just don't want to do it, if you passed your completed version to me I could help you with it? The most effective way to do it would be through roto-brushing (new to After Effects CS5).

Here's a video I worked on which demonstrates what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llykaN_cbD4

Star Wars Renascent

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Just watched the clip too. Awesome! Just for the audio, I might consider lowering the tone and raising the base in your voice - maybe adding slight reverb and lower the attack on the "S"s and "T"s. Also consider added room tone so that you don't get abrupt cuts of audio or use "reduce noise" and audio fades to solve this. These are just some things I've learned this year in my Sound Design course.

Star Wars Renascent

Inspired by the Godfather Part II and a revamp of Star Wars: Reborn

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^That would be very interesting. I'm not sure I would like all of Anakin's body to be in color but I like the idea of his eyes. Maybe have them change color as he turns.

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I played with some stuff like that, but it didn't really work for what I'm going for. It's supposed to feel like an old movie, a classic, and having bits of color just made it feel like Sin City. Plus I'd rather focus on getting the story right rather than doing special effects.

And yes, all of the audio is test audio. Not an ounce of it is final, and I have all of your feedback in mind.

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I looked at the 8 minute clip and loved the idea behind it and the look of it, but was taken out by a couple things that I think you should consider.

I love that this would set up the prequel story, like the prologue of Fellowship of the Ring. It explains what Darth Maul is talking about and should have been the opening of TPM!

That said, it's too much material in my opinion. It overstates every point. Bad guy shows up at temple, bad guy wins. Bad guy goes to Alderaan, bad guy loses. That's all the information in a nutshell. But the images go on through false ups and downs before getting to the point.

Just a thought. More later.