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Post #479288

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twooffour
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PT vs OT Scientific Study
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1-Mar-2011, 1:23 PM

TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

Grievous could have one of the best things about the prequels if they hadn't given him that lame-ass cough and made him into a chicken-shit coward.

Fixed.

 

"Sleazy villains" are often "cowardly" to some extent - the Joker from TDK fights like a pussy (heck, even Nicholson's in the old film), Raul Julia in Street Fighter, and I could probably name others (but these two have already gained "iconic" status in pop culture, so hey).

Using dirty tricks, being weak and attempting to run away all the time makes them less "badass", but all the more "sleazy" and "despicable", and all in all in no way weaker villains cinematically.

The cheesy, stupid cough is part of why I find watching him so enjoyable. Basically, if you compare him to Vader or even the Emperor, he's pretty much a cackling, mustache-twirling Disney villain, but as far as I'm concerned, a damn entertaining one.

I can see your point.  I still think he could have been a much better character, but as Alexrd said, to each his own.

At this point, one has to make the distinction: he could be better character, or a better CARTOON?

As a character, undoubtedy - he was established and characterized waaaaay too poorly.

As far as personality and mannerisms, again, could he be more threatening and serious? While Grievous, imo, still manages to come off as threatening instead of completely disappearing in the camp territory, heck sure.

As for could he be more memorable and entertaining than he was, if we STAY with the "cheesy Disney villain" concept? Sure, maybe, not saying he's the epitome of cheese villainy on film, but he's already pretty damn fun to watch (ymmv on that), and it's obvious that quite a bit of work has been put into giving his movements character.

 

For what it's worth, I've seen some snippets of CW, and I do find Grievous pretty boring there, as compared to the movie - he doesn't cough, and acts less silly overall :D