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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 361

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Ehh.... If Adywan took several years with the PT, he'll probably color correct, enhance it, and re-edit it completely. Perhaps he'll improve on the CGI or even make it less obvious. Whatever he makes is bound to be great.

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ray_afraid said:

TV's Frink said:

WhatsMyName said:

Also, i think the PT just needs to be left alone. I'm not saying Ady couldn't do an amazing job. But i've watched all six of them in a row and i see no point in touching them.

Well then by all means be happy watching your retail DVDs.

*shaking head*

Maybe he means they are unsalvageable? That's pretty much my stance on 'em.

 Yeah, that's what i meant. I've seen other edits and they still don't fix the holes and continuency in the films. Ady is a miracle worker though. ;)

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The drift in this thread illustrates why I have suggested that the "preservation" section should be listed above the "fan edit" section. This website is supposed to be primarily about ensuring the survival of the original trilogy as it appeared in theaters and in its original academy-award-winning form, not about promoting fan edits. There's another excellent site for that.

I have absolutely nothing against Star Wars fan edits (my hard drive contains several!!), but as long as we put fan editing as our #1 topic, it's going to send the wrong message about what this community is all about. That's my opinion, FWIW.

For that matter, there has been significantly more traffic in the preservation section, at least lately.

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WhatsMyName said:


What's in the purist version exactly?
It's a cut of Revisited that doesn't have any music not from ANH, so no music during the duel, no Imperial March, no extended Death Star Reveal or TIE attack. It looks like its actually a rough cut of the HD version, as Ady has seemed to shy away from some of those changes as of late.
Also, i think the PT just needs to be left alone. I'm not saying Ady couldn't do an amazing job. But i've watched all six of them in a row and i see no point in touching them.
What is it with people not thinking Ady should try to edit the prequels. Let's not discourage the guy! Not only is he not starting till he's done with the OT, he's going to redo ANH first. We'll have all 3 versions of what the SEs should have been. If people don't like his PT edits, you don't have to worry about him getting burnt out on them because you'll already have the edits you want. Let him try when the time comes. At the very least he can add some visual continuity by not making the lightsabers pointy and have them be the same colors as his OT...

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:


The drift in this thread illustrates why I have suggested that the "preservation" section should be listed above the "fan edit" section. This website is supposed to be primarily about ensuring the survival of the original trilogy as it appeared in theaters and in its original academy-award-winning form, not about promoting fan edits. There's another excellent site for that.

I have absolutely nothing against Star Wars fan edits (my hard drive contains several!!), but as long as we put fan editing as our #1 topic, it's going to send the wrong message about what this community is all about. That's my opinion, FWIW.

For that matter, there has been significantly more traffic in the preservation section, at least lately.
Moving Preservations above Fan Edits on the main page isn't going to change that most people find their way here because of fan edits, especially this one. I'm all for preservations. I think Harmy and others are doing incredible work. But the masses outside only see Adywan. I'm sorry. I created the official site to bring some of the random questions to a minimum, but unless Adywan moves his conversation elsewhere and updates every link to OT.com to the new place, this is probably going to be the case.

And I would hardly call this a drift. ;-)

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Off topic, but why has everyone suddenly changed their avatars? I figured it was some mass joke (judging by tv's frink's) but I see you have your own pic in yours doubleofive.

Confused.

Apologies if that's actually you, Tv's Frink :-p

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brash_stryker said:


Off topic, but why has everyone suddenly changed their avatars? I figured it was some mass joke (judging by tv's frink's) but I see you have your own pic in yours doubleofive.

Confused.

Apologies if that's actually you, Tv's Frink :-p
"Off Topic" are indeed the operative words.

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Just found it before you replied. Should have looked harder :-p

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I completely agree with Puggo about the preservation forum. And what 005 says only supports that, because when someone comes here because of Ady, they would be more likely to notice the preservations if they were in the first place.

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Harmy said:


I completely agree with Puggo about the preservation forum. And what 005 says only supports that, because when someone comes here because of Ady, they would be more likely to notice the preservations if they were in the first place.
I'm ok with moving Preservations up a slot. I just don't see how that would help make Preservations stand out more. This isn't the place though, perhaps we should start a thread in Suggestions for this.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

The drift in this thread illustrates why I have suggested that the "preservation" section should be listed above the "fan edit" section. This website is supposed to be primarily about ensuring the survival of the original trilogy as it appeared in theaters and in its original academy-award-winning form, not about promoting fan edits. There's another excellent site for that.

To be perfectly honest, Puggo, it doesn't matter where you put the Fan Edit and Preservation sections, because this site is never going to shed the "whiny fanboys bitching about George Lucas" reputation it has earned.  I, for one, come here mainly to follow up on news of Adywan's Revisited projects, not to read about the 1,923rd method of preserving the original trilogy (which that bastard Lucas has totally destroyed, may he burn in hell forever, yada yada yada).

Plus, since the GOUT was released on DVD, this site technically has no reason to continue existing per its own mandate, which was to get Lucas to release the unaltered trilogy on DVD.  He's done that.  The only thing left now is to whine about how he did it, and if you're honest with yourselves, you'll admit that there will be people who will continue to find something to complain about no matter what he does or how he does it.

So, for me, this site's main purpose is to follow the progress on Revisited, plus a few other edits and preservations of interest to me.  The other 99% of the site's contents are completely irrelevant to me; they could vanish into the ether tomorrow and I wouldn't care one iota.

(putting on flame-retardant clothes and waiting for the backlash in 5...4...3...2...)

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lpd said:

Jaitea I love your chasm, I feal the same as brash they only stand out cos we know there not originaly there. Also love the hologram of the report to Tarkin, imo that looks correct if you know what I mean, it fits so well and dosnt look out of place at'all, and your editing  of the scene. Sorry if I'm being ignorant but what was the source as looks great.

Why thank you.

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doubleofive said:

Also, i think the PT just needs to be left alone. I'm not saying Ady couldn't do an amazing job. But i've watched all six of them in a row and i see no point in touching them.
What is it with people not thinking Ady should try to edit the prequels. Let's not discourage the guy! Not only is he not starting till he's done with the OT, he's going to redo ANH first. We'll have all 3 versions of what the SEs should have been. If people don't like his PT edits, you don't have to worry about him getting burnt out on them because you'll already have the edits you want. Let him try when the time comes. At the very least he can add some visual continuity by not making the lightsabers pointy and have them be the same colors as his OT...

 I'm not trying to at all, i've just yet to see a good edit to the PT is all i'm saying. But, i'm going to drop the subject now as this is prlly for another thread and Ady is still working on ESBR and Has ROTJR to do first.

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MJPollard, I predict this thread will soon be massively derailed by that comment....BUT, I'll just rebuke it as efficiently as I can so as not to waste too much space.

The purpose of this site was to get the original Star Wars films released in the highest quality possible. This was because, in 2004 or so when the site went online, we were in the age of DVD yet the original versions only existed as Laserdisc in the best of forms. In 2006, Lucasfilm released the master for the very same Laserdisc. So, how did that solve anything? We already had that, basically. Putting a Laserdisc on DVD and calling it "a DVD release" is not meaningful. The point of the site was not to get the films released in any form no matter how bad the quality, because they were already available on Laserdisc, the point was to have them released properly to the standards of the day. A similar comparison might be to transfer a really good VHS tape to DVD and release that and then say "this site now has no purpose." Furthermore, while a Laserdisc master was unacceptable in 2006, it is doubly so today, where we live in the age of high definition and Blu Ray. If anything, the site has more purpose than ever now. In 2006 it had been 13 years since the last telecine of the films (the 1993 Laserdisc master, which was reused in 1995 and released on DVD that year). In 2011, it is now close to 20 years since the last telecine of the films, and we aren't even using the same resolution standards anymore. The original versions are in more dire straits than they ever have been.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be more vocal critics than me here, but I don't want to say more than that.

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MJPollard said:

Plus, since the GOUT was released on DVD, this site technically has no reason to continue existing per its own mandate, which was to get Lucas to release the unaltered trilogy on DVD.  He's done that.  The only thing left now is to whine about how he did it, and if you're honest with yourselves, you'll admit that there will be people who will continue to find something to complain about no matter what he does or how he does it.

To some extent that's true of anyone making anything (there will always be vocal unhappy consumers) but if the DVD release had been anything like sets of Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Steven Spielberg etc films or the disc sets for shows like Doctor Who where special editions and original editions sit side by side, presented in the best possible form the legitimate complaints about the OT would have been neutralised.

Instead there was a LD transfer which looked about the same as a passable bootleg flogged as a double dip marketing exercise.

Now the Blu-Ray is on the horizon, it looks as if it's going to be more of the same.

It's a legitimate cause to fight for whether you are interested in it or not.

You are following Adywan's projects and he has had his share of detractors too. The people complaining about aspects of Ady's work don't do so from the same position of people complaining about the GOUT.

Adywan hasn't access to the original film and hasn't withheld a decent release of it or charged people for an inferior one.

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Harmy said:

G E Predator, why don't you go here and read what this site is about and then if you still feel like coming back and repeating what you just said, why don't you also go to a mosque and start spreading the gospel there, while you're at it?

 

I wasn't "spreading gospel," I was just stating my opinion.  And no one was arguing.  I fully respect ChainsawAsh's opinon, and I was simply expressing my own without forcing it upon others.

Now that the minor debate is over...when Ady does a 720HD version, my only suggestions are restoring the spinning stars with the Falcon goes to lightspeed and removing this two elements: the trade federation droid head from the Jawa Sandcrawler and the electric flow on the torture droid's needle.  Other than those, I thought Ady did a superb job on the revisited.

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MJPollard said:

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...The only thing left now is to whine about how he did it, and if you're honest with yourselves, you'll admit that there will be people who will continue to find something to complain about no matter what he does or how he does it.

(putting on flame-retardant clothes and waiting for the backlash in 5...4...3...2...)

Perhaps instead of preparing to be 'flamed' you would be better served making stronger more well thought out arguments or at least comporting yourself in a less confrontational/bitchy manner.

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AvP said:


"STAR_WARS_REVISITED_NTSC_720p" is being uploaded to NG, is this fake?
Probably a fan-made upscale. Adywan has to start from scratch to make his properly.

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AvP said:


Yea thats what i thought, "Resolution...........: 1456x720" sounds off.
Yeah, that's not right.

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Hey guys! I just have a quick question. What's the difference between the DVD-5 and DVD-9? Is one SD and the other HD?

Thanks!

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xytan4 said:


Hey guys! I just have a quick question. What's the difference between the DVD-5 and DVD-9? Is one standard definition and the other high definition?

 

Thanks!
"5" is a single-layer DVD and "9" is a dual-layer DVD. There are minor differences between the two versions, but most of it is just there is less compression on the DVD-9

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So they're both standard definition?