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Post #470456

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twooffour
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Adventures in Raising the Next Generation of Original Star Wars Fans
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Date created
4-Feb-2011, 4:31 PM

Akwat Kbrana said:

zombie84 said:

I'm not saying either of those things. I'm just saying, if kids want to watch something that will probably give them entertainment and fun times, it seems counter-intuitive to go to such lengths to manipulate them into not having that experience just because you didn't have it.

Rather stringent language, don't you think? How is it manipulative or excessive to educate my child about the Star Wars current state-of-affairs and explain my negative opinions of the PT to him? Just because my child "wants to watch something that will probably give [him] enjoyment and fun times", that doesn't necessitate that I go out of my way to procure specific movies and let him watch them, especially movies that I happen to dislike. For example, one of the worst films I've ever had the displeasure of seeing is Beowulf (1999) starring Christopher Lambert. If my son one day expressed a desire to watch that film, I would explain that (a) it's a very stupid, uninteresting movie, and (b) we don't own it, and (c) I'm not going to spend good money to rent a crappy movie. If he decides to watch it at a friend's house then I'm not going to do anything to stop him, but he'd be doing it with the knowledge that his dad thinks it's a crummy movie, so he's only got himself to blame if he ends up hating it. Same scenario applies to the PT...how exactly is that "manipulative"?

How it's "manipulative"? How about when you said you'd like to PERSUADE your kid into how stupid the prequels were?

Next, you proceed to express the sentiment that you can't be bothered to buy a movie FOR YOU KID, if YOU happen to dislike it, or find it "uninteresting"... Really? Hey, isn't that the whole point of buying toys, nintendos or whatever else FOR YOUR KIDS, that it's something YOUR KIDS are interested in and will spend time on, whether you yourself find it interesting or not?

Are we suppose to take from that that you aren't going to buy your son toy cars unless you enjoy playing with them, too?

Aside from that, the "good money" needed to buy an older movie is like 7 bucks, and the entire SW series is on Youtube, anyway - so is it really financial considerations that bother you about this?

but he'd be doing it with the knowledge that his dad thinks it's a crummy movie, so he's only got himself to blame if he ends up hating it.

I just crapped my pants reading that... what, SERIOUSLY? Hey, what if he DOES like the movie, then he'll think "wow, my dad's kind of a dunce for not liking this awesome flick", what then? You'll probably think something like "gee, I kind of did a mistake when trying to make him put far more weight on my personal opinions about stuff than he reasonably should, didn't I? now whenever there's a difference in reaction between us two, he'll think I'm a complete dunce who shouldn't be listened to at all when it comes to movies - it's not like he should develop his own thought and not invest himself into the opinions of others, even his parents, so much, that's completely right by me as long as he just feels thankful or guilty whenever I'm proven right - but I'M NOT A DUNCE, I DON'T WANT HIM TO THINK OF ME THIS WAY!!!"

Hey, why should anyone have anyone to BLAME for seeing a bad movie, anyway? I mean, geez, now you've seen this movie (everyone else is talking about), you've learned just one bit more about film history, you have a new experience to talk about, and you can start enjoying ripping it a new one from that day on... what's so bad about that?

I've seen a fair share of bad movies myself, either because some asshat reviewer said it was cool, or because everyone was saying it was bad; I don't blame anyone for motivating me to watch any of that stuff, I can certainly go ridicule the dumbhead reviewers for being so naive or whatever, but NOW I'VE SEEN IT AND HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT AND REFERENCE. 

Jesus H., it's just movies, not getting your teeth ripped out. Like "hey, how about I'll just ask the doctor to withhold the anesthetic during a dental procedure so I know how it feels"? "don't do son" "I will dad!" "Don't, I'm warning you." "*does* ooh.."