STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 887

doubleofive said:

Adywan did it for ANHR, I pray he does for ESBR, because I'd be working on it for months. Lol

Oh excuse me then. :)

vaderios said:

ImperialFighter said:

...and although we don't see the top of the set entranceway that Vader steps down from in the shot near the end of the movie...we do glimpse it briefly in the background of the 'Bounty Hunters' one below...

 

I suggested ages ago ady erase/paint the bounty hunter shots where the plate is static with a more open area like we see in the establishing shot but i think i took the answer that the bounty hunter meeting wasnt supposed to be in the bridge.

Wait, so you're saying that adywan said that the 'Bounty Hunter's conversation doesn't actually occur in the same 'Bridge' area that we see in this shot below? -

I must have missed that, as I'd always thought of this scene as being set on the 'Bridge', due to the similar look of things!  But that's great, as this makes perfect sense....because it explains the different-looking corridor layout that's seen behind the 'Bounty Hunters' in the shot below, which always used to throw me...

So that's another misconception that I previously had, that's been sorted out now.  Thanks! :)

I guess I'll just think of this as being some kind of 'control' area that's near to the docking bay underneath the Executor...where all the 'Bounty Hunters' boarded, and where Vader and Piett went down to meet them.

(on page 866) vaderios said:

ImpFighter thats for you. A bit left abit right i wasnt aiming for a perfect match, only to get the concept :)

Pretty slick right?

I said I'd get back to you about this sometime, vaderios.  Pretty slick mock-up indeed. :)

Personally, I'm finding it difficult to decide whether it's less jarring that the 'holo-pad' is suddenly missing from the set in the following shot here...or whether it's less jarring that the 'holograms' are suddenly in a different position to it from where we initially see them, if the 'holo-pad' is restored...

Then again, the 'holograms' have shifted in relation to the set anyway, as was previously mentioned.  And by using the long floor 'grating' as a guide, the foreground 'hologram' seems to have moved quite a bit more to the middle of the overall corridor now, compared to where Vader is standing...especially when also judged using the shot below, where Vader eventually moves across from where he's just been standing...

...and I'm not 100% certain, but judging by the narrowness of the overall 'hologram' section seen below...I reckon that Vader might have originally been filmed standing just a little further back, nearer beside the grey 'partition' of the 'hologram' set to begin with...compared to where he's positioned in the shot where the 'holo-pad' is missing...

But if I had to choose, I guess I'd prefer seeing the 'holo-pad' in place...since the 'hologram' placements are so mis-aligned in relation to the set at this point anyway.  Things still work well enough without it too though, in the sense that it's supposedly still 'behind' the 'holograms'.

greedo said:

Anal retentive or what!? I'm amazed some peeps on here made it more than 10 mins into any of the Star Wars Special Editions with all the gaffes/ CG atrocities and continuity errors - must make their heads explode!

I'm all for attention to detail but there has to be a limit. When peeps are asking for things like potato asteroid being removed, highlighting something that appears on a single frame and now this - then you've gone too far. Give adywan some credit. His work is amazing and his decision-making is spot-on. I hate for him to get bogged down on a single scene which is already awesome - when there is a WHOLE FILM to edit.

 

Well said that man. Stop examining each pixel, frame by frame. The new scene looks great. It is the ROTJ emperor saying (more or less) Clive Revill's lines. Scene is done. I don't care if the audio is changed between now and release, though I respect Ady's decision as to that. 

I think it's a fine line to walk. Examining the films under a microscope is what has lead to some of Ady's incredible improvements, so it's hard for me to agree with any sentiment that implies people should just shut up and be happy with what they get. Such complacency is not in most of our DNA.

But there's a point of diminishing returns, like when you're analyzing and arguing over the same minute of footage for 2 weeks or rehashing year-old debates without bringing anything new to the discussion.

It's a fine line, but ultimately we're all here because we love this series and we love this project. Heated debate won't change that, so long as we all recognize when it's time to let it go.

The improved Emperor scene looked fantastic, Ady!

Lord Grievous said:

I never said he doesn't smile, I also never said that the smile looks fake, I merely said that I think he shouldn't smile in that particular scene.

Well it's in the original. Surely that's the ultimate qualifier for it to belong when this is an edit that makes things more faithful to the original.

Lord Grievous said:

This isn't open for discussion

Really? I could've sworn this was a FORUM ;-)

But opinions can be qualified and discussed the same as anything else, surely. Anything that's discussed is subjective. If everything was objective, these forums would just be full of people agreeing with eachother. How horrible would that be? :-p

Please wake me when the philosophical debate on the nature of subjectivity in online discussion forums has ended.

Geez what a long time to be beating a dead horse.

I come here to read about what is happening with Adywan's work on TESB:R & I would rather see no new posts for days on end than this mush.  

Do any of you have a life? I don't mean that offensively, but reading through a lot of pages of people obsessing about a stair or a smile or a blob.....wow.

Walk away from the computers for a while guys, stop and smell the flowers.

Ziz said:

 

Emp: The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.  >:-|

Vader: If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally.

Emp: Yes...yes.  He would be a great asset.  ',:-)

The Emperor is smiling because Vader just gave him a cool idea he hadn't considered a minute ago.

 Didn't Adywan create the second "yeeeeeeees" out of the ether anyways? That's pretty damn cool.

After reading the majority of the last several pages, all I can hear is Han Solo saying "... No time to discuss it as a committee!"

Ady, you keep up the awesome work you have done so far. I have loved every scrap of info you have posted. I have won life-long fans of the trilogy to your edits with ANH:R and what you have let us see so far on ESB:R. Your little nods to the spirit of the original trilogy are perfect little touches. Please just keep up the completely awesome work.

I'll also chime in and say keep up the good work, Ady. There are always going to be people that nitpick things to death, but as long as you're happy with the finished work that's all that matters. I, for one, think everything you've done on both ANH and ESB is absolutely brilliant and encourage you to spend less time listening to detractors and more time finishing this fantastic edit.

I used to think I was one of those fanboys who knew every mistake and every little technical glitch in these movies, but this forum has showed me that I was never anywhere near that level. I managed to learn a little something about myself....in that, I'm still apparently able to look past many things and enjoy these movies as entertainment. I'd say probably about half the things Ady's fixed were things I had never even noticed before.

True but even if it's on a subconscious level some part of you will (hopefully) feel that the end result sits better (as a special edition).

Bingowings said:

True but even if it's on a subconscious level some part of you will (hopefully) feel that the end result sits better (as a special edition).

 without question. Revisited is a vast improvement over whats been made available to us

I totally share your sentiment, muddyknees. I never noticed the majority of mistakes and gaffes mentioned here. But like Bingowings said, despite enjoying the films warts 'n all, it's an incredibly satisfying experience watching Revisited. It's the difference between Leonardo's The Last Supper, before and after its restoration. It was enjoyed and appreciated for centuries, but after a painstaking restoration, it's clear just how much people were missing, though they likely never realized it.