zombie84 wrote:

Also, the hairs on the cap of the 3P0 desert shot are obscenely large, so it would make sense if the frame was 16mm in size.

This sounds like 'Strike 2' in the Case of 'Is Catnap 16mm?' So now it seems more appropriate to ask a different line of questions to it's source. Maybe we can learn 'when' this transfer might have occured which would be helpful.

Finally, as to disqualification of the (apparently) 16mm Catnap print, while obviously this isn't a "theatrical performance" (i.e. live from a theatre), this seems a bit harsh.

Agree, having the discussion focus on what can be learned from these sources over if they fill out some desired set is where i'd rather see discussion go. This thread will most likely shift in focus, more on the annecdotal stories of people and their 'copies'. Star Wars and piracy has fascinated me, and there are the Variety article horror stories, way back in the 70s, yet very few copies have surfaced and discussion of people having actually seen one is also limited. Need to take this out of this forum into other places to collect stories. that aside.

Comparing Satanika's pencil marked frame to the MeBeJedi/Starkiller one, the size stands out. The MBD/SK reminds me of grease pencil or a paint brush with a mild acetone and it's de-colored the film. But if this was an original full framed source, why mark it just for a video transfer? The mark could have been done off frame. Doesn't make sense to have transfered each reel to video then edit them afterwards using these markers as guides. Does the mark size lead towards again a 16mm, as the hair does for Catnap?

And on the msycamore Puggo's "Stjärnornas Krig" - Swedish 16mm pict why blow out the burn? The PuggoGrande has it similar to Moth3r's source, slight yellow ring. I guess maybe the guy doing the subs might have chosen burns which were in darker frame areas and enchanced them?