TheBoost said:
twooffour said:
TheBoost said:
twooffour said:
TheBoost said:
I still stand you have to be "retarded" not to "understand" the plot of this film on the first "viewing".
He understood and mentioned what there was, and explained how the lack of any additional information made a deeper understanding IMPOSSIBLE.
I honestly don't know what kind of 'deeper' meaning you're looking for.
Should Nute Gunray have done a PowerPoint to explain to the audience how taxes effect his business? Should the Queen have explained to her councellors why a blockade was bad for them? Should Qui-Gon have worn a t-shirt that read "Protaganist?" Should the protocol droid have said, "I'm mostly sure they're Jedi because they looked and acted like Jedi and had lightsabers and Jedi-brand boots"? Would these things have helped you reach that deeper understanding you so crave?
So you kinda admit the fact that the movie provides no information on those aspects, while simultaneously criticizing RLM for (intentionally?) "not understanding" those aspects? ;)
At the end of the day, you're pretty much painting yourself into a corner because what little understandable "plot" there was (i.e. Sidious using a trivial McGuffin for his own goals, which, in the movie, is nothing more than getting his alter ego promoted to chancellor), RLM acknowledged, and all the absent elaborations were criticized for not being there, rather than "purposefully not understood" (hint - by your admission, the movie didn't provide any of those details for anyone to "understand). ;)
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So um yea, not sure if you're trying to defend the movie, or just try to put down RLM's review for the sake of it, or because you didn't watch it properly and missed out on like 90% of its content, but basically, TPM fails and so do you.
By my admission!?!??! Wow, you've backed me into a corner Columbo! Here I am admitting the film doesn't waste time dealing with answers to questions you keep asking that I maintain are stupid and don't need to be answered or even addressed.
Are you honestly unable to grasp that a planetary blockade is a bad thing for Naboo? Were you honestly confused when the two men in robes turned out to be Jedi? Can you honestly not figure out how a shady politician like Sidious/Palpatine might be manipulating the TF without it being spelled out to you? Could you honestly not figure out why the TF would want an investigation sent to Naboo by the Senate? Your hero, RLM apparently couldn't.
TPM has many flaws. These are not them. These are stupid.
Oh yeah, epic pwnz on you.
Uuuhm.. Boost... did you even read what I wrote to you? I understand you left most of it out and replaced it with a "..." for clarity purposes, but does the "..." actually stand for "tldr" again? Why the heck did I just waste half a page on you??
So let's go again, then, one by one...
Are you honestly unable to grasp that a planetary blockade is a bad thing for Naboo?
Um, it's obvious it's a bad thing for them, and I never said I particularly liked the part in the review where he questions Naboo's dependance on trade given their natural resources and the "universe powering" power plant. Completely unnecessary.
At the end of the day, however, the complaint raised is the lack of information on anything - the blockade and invasion are the entire movie, and we have no clue about anyone's motivations, there, or what's at stake. The blockade might be the excuse plot for the beginning, but after that, we still have no clue where the TF stands politically, or what they want from the invasion. Everything's completely blank.
Now, if you read between the lines there, he's just ridiculing this lack of exposition and the inexplicable "power reactor" that just pops up in the palace. Playing additionally dumb on an already threadbare, lazy plot, is an effective and obvious ironic device.
If you don't, that point is competely superfluous, but the reviewer still never wonders at any point whether the blockade and invasion are "bad", or why they try to negotiate against it.
Were you honestly confused when the two men in robes turned out to be Jedi?
Now that, is just dumb. RLM never "played dumb" by pretending to be confused about it, and never did I. Watch that part again, and then read my corresponding post again.
Can you honestly not figure out how a shady politician like Sidious/Palpatine might be manipulating the TF without it being spelled out to you?
Um, I just posted you a whole bunch of different, radically varying possibilities how it "might"'ve been. Point is, the fact we even have to "figure anything out ourselves" (which, in this case, translates to "guess the script for the scriptwriter"), is the movie's flaw.
Sidious wants to create the Empire somehow, and the TF is possibly interested in money. Maybe. And Sidious is manipulating them. They're evil. We know that. The plot's flaw is that this is ALL we're ever told. That's what RLM addresses.
As in, "such an organization would want something in return for taking such risks", and WE'RE NEVER TOLD WHAT IT IS.
You should seriously consider banning the expression "spell out for" from your vernacular.
Could you honestly not figure out why the TF would want an investigation sent to Naboo by the Senate?
I actually don't even remember if I ever brought that up. Where did I say that?
At any rate, Plinkett says it's a contradiction that VALORUM agrees to answer TF's plight, while he technically should've trusted the testimony of the two Jedi - while the whole point is obviously, that Valorum is weak and powerless, and has to act this way because of blackmailing or whatever. So RLM fucked that up.
TPM has many flaws. These are not them. These are stupid.
If you mean the Jedi robe thing, yes, it's a minor point and is given like 10 seconds in the review.
If you mean the motivations of the main villains and the sense behind the whole plot of the movie, then, um, no, it's actually one of the FUNDAMENTAL flaws of this movie.