I'm starting to familiarize myself with DVD Lab Pro and am currently all right with making menus for 4:3 features, but since my bumpers are 4:3 it makes it a bit trickier to deal with 16:9 features. (I can't seem to set aside a title to be 4:3, and then have it connect to the main menu.) This will come into play for a handful of widescreen films, some of which have shoddy restoration work on DVD, and some of which are not OTV on DVD.
An alternative is that I could modify the WDHV86 bumper I use into widescreen.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
Molly said:
(I can't seem to set aside a title to be 4:3, and then have it connect to the main menu.)
Been a while (although I love the program). And I'm in another country on a borrowed comoputer. BUT...
Something about having a different VTS, I think?
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
I believe MattMahdi is correct. You need separate title sets (VTS's). You can't have one program anamorphic and the other non-anamorphic in the same VTS.
Dr. M
Molly said:
When the Beast takes Belle out of the dungeon, after she offers to take her father's place. OTV: "You want, you want to stay in the tower?" (iirc, I don't have the video readily accessible atm) It is technically a mixing error but it's the way I grew up with the movie.
That's an ERROR?
I've obviously been spending too much time with the OAR disc than the commercial DVD.
Maybe for the Blu-ray they'll allow it as a branching feature? (He asks facetiously.)
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
Thank you, Doctor M.
What was percolating through my head definitely DIDN'T make it onto the screen, and yours is a much-needed reply.
(I still dream of using DVDLab Pro to create the ultimate Star Wars Holiday Special disc. Looking less likely as years go by, but I continue to gather material. Are there any products that allow similar *control* over menuing, chapters, &c, but for a lower price?)
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
Ah, but I can't get the second VTS to link to a menu in the first VTS. Not sure how to work around that.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
You need to make bridges.
VMG menuing is above VTS and will be required.
http://mediachance.com/dvdlab/Helppro/vts.htm
Good luck. It's quite a bit of fun!
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
Bridging did the job. I threw together a disc of Cinderella using the 1995 video and 2005 "restored mono" audio, chapter cuts based on the 1995 LD (except dropping chapter 2 and moving chapter 3 back a bit). This one will be going up on torrent soon (prolly TPB to back up my tracker as I'm trying to relocate which means no Internet for a while) - I estimate 24 hours.
I've seen 4 variants of Cinderella, video-wise:
1. The 1987 master (which adds a full Blue Castle at the beginning, a short one at the end, and cuts out the RKO logo, fading in during the "Walt Disney Presents" card).
2. Another master has the RKO logo plastered with a generic 60s Buena Vista logo. I seem to recall it has the Blue Castle at the beginning only. (Saw it on a PAL VCD, and I seem to remember the WDMC VHS from 1995 having it, but see 4 below.)
3. The 2005 DVD (which was "restored" by Lowry and has end credits for this "restoration"), like the 1987 master, plasters the RKO logo with a Blue Castle, but like the VCD master, leaves the original music intact under the new logo.
4. The 1995 laserdiscs - at least the WDMC CLV one I have, prolly the CAV one also. The original logos are left intact, although full Blue Castles bookend the video.
I used the 1995 remaster as the video base, complete with the bookend (an original test dropped the bookend and somehow it looked more "proper" with it, even if unauthentic). The audio track presented here is, however, from the 2005 remaster. (I didn't use the OTHER English track on the 2005 remaster, as I've heard nothing but bad things about the DEHT remixes.)
The menus are very rough, which is typical of my projects. I used a template for the chapter menus (adding title cards afterward), then fixed a glitch in the template (the back/forward arrows on these menus pointed the wrong way). For the main menu I used a quick gimpjob, and it shows, rather painfully. :/ Or maybe I just see my own faults much worse than everyone else?
Video - 7500 kbps, 23.976 fps (Avidemux 2-pass)
Audio - 128 kbps (basically unmodified from R1; some slight padding about 0.3 sec in one scene) ac3 mono. FFMPEG used to encode the Disney logo audio.
Using old Disney bumpers along with a "share but do not sell" screen is kind-of an in-reference for us (me and drf). The bumper at the beginning is the same as on the Winnie the Pooh DVD I released recently. The unusual "Metal Diamond" logo also appears prior to the start of the movie (taken from a different Cinderella LD, the 1988 edition). The opening bumper makes it clear that this is not an official release.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
Exciting to hear! And thank you for your hard work.
If anyone posts the torrent in some other form, Usenet or some other method, it would be great to hear about it. Can't torrent but do have other options....
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
Is the 2005 restoration poorly done? Lowry usually does a decent job... unlike the films Disney has tried to restore themselves.
Dr. M
Cinderella almost appears like it was digitally recolored in some shots... the color difference is stunning. Granted an old laserdisc is probably not the most accurate source.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
That's very interesting. Many of the color differences are VERY similar to The Little Mermaid's recoloring(?).
I don't know if they are messing with the colors so they look better on uncalibrated televisions or that we are seeing corrections to aging and older transfer methods.
I'm surprsied no one at Disney has stepped up to explain considering some of the flack they've taken. But then again, they don't bother to defend the 'Home Theater' audio mixes either.
Dr. M
Hey, Doctor M... is there any chance you could show me a comparison for Little Mermaid as well? Aside from the boner incident, I'd like to see these alleged color differences.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
Well, it's the *last* laserdisc version and one specifically remastered...
I got it seeding but neither my tracker nor TPB are reporting it. Arr.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
bkev said:
Hey, Doctor M... is there any chance you could show me a comparison for Little Mermaid as well? Aside from the boner incident, I'd like to see these alleged color differences.
Probably not. I no longer have the original DVD release.
Dr. M
2 things.
I was re-reading some of this thread, and in the discussion of BatB, I sort of think I remembered something.
Wasn't one of the outdoor transitional scenes redrawn (to change the season) to accommodate 'Human Again', but if you watch the 'Theatrical' version on the DVD, it still shows the altered scene?
If nobody remembers this, let me know and I'll Google around and see if I can find, you know, facts, to back that statment up. Btw, what progress is there on the v2 preservation?
Also, can someone PM me with info on where to find Molly's Cinderella?
Dr. M
It sounds very much like something Disney would fail to correct, The Lion King still has the redrawn iMax shots even in the theatrical cut if you'll recall.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
From what I've been reading at the HTF and elsewhere, the new Blu Ray still has some IMAX shots creep into the theatrical cut. The Work In Progress version has been reduced to one of those PIP tracks.
The included DVD apparently doesn't suffer these goofs, but there is still debate going on about the colors being different.
I've rediscovered my VHS of the 1992 Academy Awards telecast, and it's got the live musical performances done by Angela Lansbury, (singing BATB along with Peabo Bryson and Celine Dion) as well as Jerry Orbach perfoming "Be Our Guest".
Belle and Beast also appeared on stage to announce the winning animated short. (Via new animation.)
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
From what I've been reading at the HTF and elsewhere, the new Blu Ray still has some IMAX shots creep into the theatrical cut. The Work In Progress version has been reduced to one of those PIP tracks.
HTF? (Not familiar with the acronym, sounds interesting in context.)
“Before the Dark Times. Before the Prequels.”
I'd hazard that HTF is Home Theater Forums.
Dr. M
You are correct. :)
Where were you in '77?
Molly,
I gots a question about the Deluxe Editions of Aladin, Lion King, Cinderella and the Fantasia. A pal of mine was looking to transfer these to a DVD (both the movies and the bonus tapes) and was wondering if this has already been done.
I have that Lion King. Can't cap the stills very well though... :(
Go for it. My hardware is mediocre anyway.
(BTW - drf's looking into reversing Beauty and the Beast to near-OTV at 720p, I'll let you guys know if that works out)
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
Hi, are there any news about The Lion King? Iam looking forward to the Original Version of this great movie :-)
Thanks!