Warbler said:

Jay said:
. This isn't a court of law and Dayv isn't on trial.

that is exactly why innocence until proven guilty does not apply. imho.

If you ask me, innocence until proven guilty isn't just an American court law, it's a standard of decency, a symbol of etiquette, a civilized gesture that we will refrain from treating someone like a criminal until we know that person is a criminal. Now you put yourself on the line for Dayv. You started this thread, this movement to get him money. The level of betrayal you would feel if you found out he had lied to you is immense. And I'm not even going to say that a lot of the actions Dayv has taken (or not taken) since this accusation came out isn't suspicious. I have doubts. Strong doubts. And, yes, I agree that it is up to Dayv to prove the veracity of his claims. I'm not disputing the steps. It's the attitude that's bothered me.