Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes — Page 14

Isn't the pan from Jabba to Han just an issue of missing frames in the GOUT? It sure looks like the splitscreen isn't perfectly lined up in that one, check the leaf the Jawa is holding.

Got screenshots of all of the saber flashes in the Vader/Obiwan fight. Checked Luke/Vader in ESB, looks like the same thing. I'm going to grab a frame from each shot of the Leia hologram, then move on to ESB's flashes.

Presents! Although Picasa won't let me caption them, the saber flashes are up (including some that seem to appear BEHIND the sabers), Obi-wan's saber in the cantina, and Luke watching Leia's hologram is in there too. I need to do Obi-wan watching Leia's hologram, then I think I'm done with ANH until you all find something else.

EDIT: ALL of the saber recomps are 2004 not 1997, right? Or was Luke's training redone in 1997, with the saber battle being done in 2004?

The Luke training scene on the Falcon was all done for the '97 SE, the saber in Ben's hut was also recomped for the '97 SE, they are identical in appearence to the 2004 DVD.

Obi-Wan's saber in the battle with Vader was redone in 2004, the battle was still all untouched in the '97 SE including those flashes.

Just let me know if you want me to post any examples.

Thats so weird to me. It's 2004. You work for ILM, making George's ultimate edition of Star Wars, tying it even closer to the prequels you just worked on. You have the Vader/Obiwan battle with no effects, as it was originally filmed.

And you composite the original elements back on. That HAD to be harder than actually redoing the lightsabers using the digital files they had JUST used for the prequels!

Yeah, but what I think is really weird is those saber flashes in the duel, almost all of them in the DVD transfer looks like they have been eaten up by Lowry's dirt removal or something... I don't know, it looks really weird, just a green soft and dull core left, even if you correct the contrast levels you're still left without an outer glow, if even that. These 2004 transfers never ceases to amaze me, complete total disaster!

Interesting stuff on the ESB sabers so far, especially the flashes.

I've grabbed the frames from the slo-mo cave fight, and it looks like the flashes are COMPLETELY redone, not even the same shape in some cases. msycamore, can you grab me a frame of a saber flash from 97SE of that scene to see if its 97 or 04?

I believe it is a Japanese Laserdisc?

Got the slo-mo frames up in ESB. Check it out:



All new saber flashes. The original elements seems to have a hair or something on them, I wonder if they were damaged so bad they couldn't use them for the SE.

doubleofive, someone else have to help you out with Empire '97 SE, I don't own that one, the only '97 SE version I have is ANH.

none, the ANH '97 SE screen-caps I have provided are from the broadcasts, Reivax and Flunk.

Looks like I need to get to my flaky hard drive and pull up ESB97 myself. That's fine, I just don't know when I'll have the time to play with it.

Or pittrek can get it, maybe?

rockin said:

I'm really looking foward to TESB 97SE comparisons.

It will be interesting to see if Vader has a pink lightsaber when he points at Luke while he is next to the Carbon Freezing Chamber pit - that part in the 2004 SE looked horrible.

Also, another thing that would be interesting to compare, is whether the blue tint on planet hoth is similar when comparing 97 SE and 2004 SE.

Can't wait!

We have 4 different instances of lightsabers in ESB:

Luke vs Wampa
Han vs Taun Taun
Luke vs Fake Vader
Luke vs Vader, in 4 or 5 sections

Luke vs Wampa looks exactly the same except for the lack of a saber flash when he cuts himself down. Han vs Taun Taun looks worse, but I don't think its an actual change. Luke vs Fake Vader is almost totally different looking. The parts of Luke vs Vader I've checked I can't tell, the colors are off, but the colors are off all over ESB in general.

I'm going to call those 2004 changes.