Leguman said:
A dedicated section would encourage people to speak. The Off Topic is too much a kind of private club where too few people will dare speaking of themselves and their trouble.
I don't think you should have to be "part of the tribe" to speak freely (ie > to pass the TV's Frink test for instance. Yeah, sorry man).
I hardly think this is the place to have this discussion.
edit: Maybe you're right. I Just remove the part where you feel concerned, and now I think this is the place.
Jesus what a long day
me and Dayv have not had a fight nor am i trying stir shit up i think he made a mistake since its the holidays i wanna talk about the man we all seem to care about
in the past 2 years Dayv has been thru hell
his "wife" ( they weren't legally married) put him out and took custody of hid kids he moved several times thru at least 2 states
he has been nearly homeless a few times
he has been piss poor broke and starving hungry a few times
I sent the man money with no problems...several times if need be i will pull my pay pal receipts as proof
I hired him to do graphic design and web design for me.
he asked me last summer to be his best man and i accepted. they are no longer together
the last fight me and him had was over Warb's presence on his forum.
I have known Dayv thru the fan edit.com shism here.. the fight between him and boon, the fight between him and warbler and now the fight between him and his ex gf.
Dayv designed my business cards my website and my brochures for my catering company
I always have recommended him to prospective clients
he wrote me a letter of recommendation for my masters program
we have a professional and personal relationshiop
do i speak with his ex gf? yes. both of us met thru him. he himself put her on the phone with me several times. she requested me on fb i accepted. she later deleted me with a message of why she was doing it.. I accepted that ...she is rather classy that way. we have each others phone numbers because i don't sit and Facebook all day.
do i believe that dayv has cancer? no
I think he is depressed for various reasons thus maybe not in the best of mind.
i think he made a mistake here and i think he wanted some attention at xmas because he wont see his kids and his gf broke up with him
i have made a rather bad mistake some years ago on another forum where a prank i pulled got out of hand. i never took money but i fucked over some good friends without realizing the severity of what i was doing. my mistake. i still regret it.
does day need money? yes. he is struggling bad
should you give him money? thats up to you
a few weeks back dayv ask people for their honest opinion of him and what he should change about himself on fb. heres my answer
he should be proud himself for keep going thru the hell he's been thru. he went from jobless to a manger. he went from living with people to living on his own. he from no car to a car.
but he needs to realize that it isn't the end of the world because life hands him shit. it hands us all shit. deal with it.
i gave Dayv design work and web design work to build confidence in my friend. a man feels good when he works and has something to show for it. i sent him every piece he designed for me. cards tee shirts and brochures. the man has talent.
if he chooses to remove my website from his hosting or to alter my website well .. thats ok. i hope he doesn't i still need more work from him.
i wanna start a brewing company next year i hope he helps
but this lung cancer thing worries me.. maybe you made a mistake and will admit it and all will be forgiven??
I'm glad all of the money was returned. perhaps i should i get my half of his hosting back that i just gave him 3 weeks ago? i agreed to ten bucks a year and gave him forty. because he was broke. little did i know he was raising money here..
if dayv chooses to defame my character or my past friendship to him.. well its his right
put saying you have cancer in a random thread knowing that someone would start a spark of hope thread .. well thats wrong. hate me all you want dayv but people have a right to know you just have bronchitis and are in a low point in life. no employer would promote you out of pity. why would they waste the money on training when you are a dead man walking? unless you aren't and you actually worked your way up?
i could post endless criticisms of dayv i instead hope to think that holiday depression got the better of him
he crossed a line and i spoke up.
you are all grown do whatever you want with your money. but i will guarantee he does not have lung cancer.
I have said all that i care to say.
i hope this thread locks and is unstickied but it isn't my forum
Dayv needs as much help as this guy.
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/collection.php?member=Harry+Tasker+2525
Jay said:
I removed the PayPal address from Warb's post on the first page until we've figured things out.
Jay, you also need to edit the OP.
I've made an edit myself. Please take a look at it and tell me if you think anything more needs to be done. Jay and Moth3r are free, or course, to make any other changes as well.
Seems ok to me, for what that's worth. I think it's great that you and Jay were just trying to help.
I actually hope Dayv was lying because that means he doesn't have cancer.
Jay, if and when this matter is cleared up, could you please send out another mass email? I will gladly give again if Dayv is actually ill, but I have no intentions of following the drama and speculating on the word of relative strangers.
Darth Chaltab said:
I actually hope Dayv was lying because that means he doesn't have cancer.
Interesting point, hadn't thought of that...
well of course I would hope doesn't have cancer. That goes without saying. But I would also hope that he wouldn't stoop so low as to make up a story about having cancer just to con people out of their hard earned money.
IF he doesn't have cancer, I don't think that's what happened. He wasn't asking for money in his initial "I have cancer" post. If anything, he was looking for attention.
But everyone here, upon hearing this, banded together to help him in his time of need ... and he didn't say anything because, while he may not have cancer, he does still need the money.
Still a pretty shitty thing to do, but he didn't lie about cancer to get money.
That is, of course, assuming he was lying, which I'm not convinced he was.
ChainsawAsh said:
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But everyone here, upon hearing this, banded together to help him in his time of need ... and he didn't say anything because, while he may not have cancer, he does still need the money.
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Memory problems, mmhh ?... Read across the thread again.
There is no concrete proof of anything yet.
If Dayv was lying and commiting fraud, he should be banned.
I'm not lying when I say one of my cats needs some veterinary help for his medication but never would I con anyone out of their money as trivial as a break-up.
Perhaps he had needed money because of Seasonal Holidays were approaching? This greatly suspicious since he hasn't posted in thread since.
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/collection.php?member=Harry+Tasker+2525
ChainsawAsh said:
IF he doesn't have cancer, I don't think that's what happened. He wasn't asking for money in his initial "I have cancer" post. If anything, he was looking for attention.
But everyone here, upon hearing this, banded together to help him in his time of need ... and he didn't say anything because, while he may not have cancer, he does still need the money.
Still a pretty shitty thing to do, but he didn't lie about cancer to get money.
That is, of course, assuming he was lying, which I'm not convinced he was.
he accepted the money knowing it was given to help with his cancer treatments. If he didn't have cancer, its the same as lying about cancer to get money in my book.
also he pm'ed me this on December 9th:
Funds toward my radiation treatment have been really slow. I hate to ask, but do you think that you could ask Jay if he could send out a mass pm? I really shouldn't be asking, but I'm running out of time.
so he did ask for money.
Ah, must've missed that. If he was lying, that is indeed bad.
I HAVE SENT JAY A PM. THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID AT THIS TIME.
"I'VE GROWN TIRED OF ASKING, SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME..."
The Mangler Bros. Psycho Dayv Armchaireviews Notes on Suicide
ChainsawAsh said:
Ah, must've missed that. If he was lying, that is indeed bad.
you missed it because it was in a pm to me like I said. It is why I asked Jay to send out the mass pm.
PSYCHO_DAYV said:
I HAVE SENT JAY A PM. THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID AT THIS TIME.
interesting.
ChainsawAsh said:
... Ah, must've missed that...
You mean... You're giving your money for someone who is supposed to need it to get better, while you don't read (or remember) his posts he gives in this thread in order to update news about his health ?
While I haven't sent any money, the fact is I read him and care about the news he gives and I keep thinking with warmth and serenity this guy will find his way to get better.
As sure as words have value as they can help someone to get better or enlarge perspectives, thoughts have as much importance. Unfortunately I would sound heavy badass if I said here what a charity act without all your thoughts and heart means to me...
PS: sorry I can't keep myself of sharing my feelings on such an important matter. I've got a lot to learn with Charity myself though. All the best.
ABC, you need to stop treating everyone like they're an idiot in this thread.
I wouldn't talk to idiots, be sure. ;)
PSYCHO_DAYV said:
JOHN, YOU NEED TO STOP CALLING APRIL RIGHT NOW.
Thats what I find suspicious, besides the uncertanty of this whole situation.
What sort of 'friend' makes a point of being in contact with Davys ex in every post (are you gloating?). Its not just a matter of it just being his ex that hes hurting about, its his whole damn family your messing with. If you ARE a real friend then you should keep away from his family at the moment, because it can really mess with peoples heads.
Admittedly, i dont know Davy, other than these boards, but i DO know the situation from personal experience.
Leguman said:
You mean... You're giving your money for someone who is supposed to need it to get better, while you don't read (or remember) his posts he gives in this thread in order to update news about his health ?
third time: he didn't see it because it was sent to me in a PM. Apparently, Leguman must have missed posts 165 and 168 of this thread.
ChainsawAsh said:
ABC, you need to stop treating everyone like they're an idiot...
I'm really tempted to put this in my signature.
Darth Solo said:
PSYCHO_DAYV said:
JOHN, YOU NEED TO STOP CALLING APRIL RIGHT NOW.
Thats what I find suspicious, besides the uncertanty of this whole situation.
What sort of 'friend' makes a point of being in contact with Davys ex in every post (are you gloating?).
its possible Shawn knew Dayv's ex before she became Dayv's ex.
