TheBoost said:
haljordan28 said:
TheBoost said:
"The Truth" is a complicated thing, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about things George Lucas has said. I question any argument that includes quotes from Lucas as a basis.
The dueling styling in the OT changed considerably during the trilogy. Compare Obi/Darth to Luke/Darth II. At first Lucas insisted the lightsabers had to be worked two handed, but the fight choreographers convinced him to allow more one handed moves.
It seems to me that dramatically it makes sense that the duels are so different.
Obi/Darth= Old Man vs. Cyborg
Luke/Darth=Rookie vs. Cyborg who doesn't want to kill him
Maul/Qui/Obi= Sith Killing Machine vs. Two Jedi in their Prime
Obi/Anakin= Two best Jedi in the galaxy kicking ass.
I don't need Lucas to tell me any of those things. They seem obvious from the movies.
the lightsaber duels in the OT were cherographed by europeon fencers and swordsman. just like braveheart and gladiator and lord of the rings. all you have to do is look at the stances and the behind the scenes.
if you want to buy in to lucas bullshit of cyborg vs old man lol you go right ahead. the duels in the OT looked the way it did cause they were choreographed that way and meant to be that way and simple.but of course we have so CALLED fans like your self who defend that crap. more power to you. you are part of the problem. part of what is bringing starwars down.
prequel lovers needs to take their junkquels and their special editions and form a society all their own because to me they are not part of the REAL star wars fan base. the fan base who wants to hold on to the truth and not believe in and back up the lies that lucas and company spread.
true fans want to preserve the truth. not hold on to LIES and BULLSHIT
I don't think George Lucas NEEDED to say "I have an old man and a man in a big clunky suit of armor" because unless you didn't notice THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE HAD. You have seen the movie, right?
Did you buy your "HAN SHOT FIRST" t-shirt one size to small, because it's apparently restricting blood flow to your brain.
OT choreographer Bob Anderson was an Olympic Fencer, but in case you didn't know, the lightsaber fights in the movie bears no resemblence to fencing. None at all. Rent "The Princess Bride" to see what that looks like (also by Bob Anderson).
Interesting that fights with Iron age short swords ("Gladiator") huge claymores ("Braveheart"), medieval longswords ("LOTR") and lazer-swords ("Star Wars") all look the same to you. This weakens your reputation as an expert in this field somewhat.
I'm no master swordsman, but the fighting in ROTJ looks passingly like Japanese (EDIT: That's in Asia FYI) kendo swordfighting at times, which interestingly enough is what Mark Hamill trained on. The movie fight also involves flying backflips and telekinesis, which admittedly aren't normally part of kendo.
As for us "so CALLED fans" v.s you "true fans," I'm guessing from your thought processes and typing that you're in junior high, so I've been a fan for about two decades longer than you. Show some respect junior.
There are many valid reasons to dislike the prequels. It's just that yours are dumb.
sorry but you are dead wrong. I do have training in sword play and ROTJ wqas strictly fencing and europeon. when vader says he would go after leia and luke lunges out and you see like and vader heading to the bridge the stances are as clear to see as the nose on your face. its pure fencing.europeon. i dont care if you believe it or not. it makes no difference to me.
and as far as vader being machine in a new hoipe you are proving your ignorance once again. at the time lucas had not decided if vader was human or cyborg under the costume. he said he worried how people would react to either way. he did not make that call till episode 5. perhaops you need to do some more research before trying to run your mouth and look like a know it all.
and alex it is clear as day you are a prequel fan and defend that junk.shit till the end. so I am not going to argue with you. go watch jar jar and go watch anakin and padme talk about course sand and go watch the pathetic circus performance lightsaber duels. abnd be sure to count all the razzie awards while you are at it. for worst picture.worst director. worst actor, worst screenplay etc..etc
now excuse me while i go take a shit and wipe my azz with a prequel picture. I mean JUNKQUEL picture or piece of shit picture....ahh whop cares it all comesdown to the same thing. prequel. haha