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TheBoost
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anothe example of lucas changing things to appeal to a new generation lightsaber dueling styles of OT vs PT
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19-Dec-2010, 4:43 PM

haljordan28 said:

TheBoost said:

"The Truth" is a complicated thing, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about things George Lucas has said. I question any argument that includes quotes from Lucas as a basis.

The dueling styling in the OT changed considerably during the trilogy. Compare Obi/Darth to Luke/Darth II. At first Lucas insisted the lightsabers had to be worked two handed, but the fight choreographers convinced him to allow more one handed moves.

It seems to me that dramatically it makes sense that the duels are so different.

Obi/Darth= Old Man vs. Cyborg

Luke/Darth=Rookie vs. Cyborg who doesn't want to kill him

Maul/Qui/Obi= Sith Killing Machine vs. Two Jedi in their Prime

Obi/Anakin= Two best Jedi in the galaxy kicking ass.

I don't need Lucas to tell me any of those things. They seem obvious from the movies.

 

the lightsaber duels in the OT  were cherographed  by  europeon fencers and swordsman. just like braveheart and gladiator and lord of the rings.  all you have to do is look  at the stances  and the behind the scenes. 

if you want to buy in to lucas  bullshit of  cyborg vs old man lol  you go right ahead.  the duels in the OT looked the way it did cause they were choreographed that way and meant to be that way and simple.

but of course we have so CALLED  fans like your self who defend that crap. more power to you.  you  are part of the problem.  part of what is bringing starwars down.

 

prequel lovers  needs to take their  junkquels and their special editions  and form  a society all their own  because  to me they are not part of the REAL  star wars fan base.  the fan base who wants to hold on to the  truth  and  not believe in and back up  the lies that lucas and company spread.

 

true fans want to preserve the truth. not hold on to LIES and BULLSHIT

I don't think George Lucas NEEDED to say "I have an old man and a man in a big clunky suit of armor" because unless you didn't notice THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE HAD. You have seen the movie, right?

Did you buy your "HAN SHOT FIRST" t-shirt one size to small, because it's apparently restricting blood flow to your brain.

OT choreographer Bob Anderson was an Olympic Fencer, but in case you didn't know, the lightsaber fights in the movie bears no resemblence to fencing. None at all. Rent "The Princess Bride" to see what that looks like (also by Bob Anderson).

Interesting that fights with Iron age short swords ("Gladiator") huge claymores ("Braveheart"), medieval longswords ("LOTR") and lazer-swords ("Star Wars") all look the same to you. This weakens your reputation as an expert in this field somewhat.

I'm no master swordsman, but the fighting in ROTJ looks passingly like Japanese (EDIT: That's in Asia FYI) kendo swordfighting at times, which interestingly enough is what Mark Hamill trained on. The movie fight also involves flying backflips and telekinesis, which admittedly aren't normally part of kendo.

As for us "so CALLED fans" v.s you "true fans," I'm guessing from your thought processes and typing that you're in junior high, so I've been a fan for about two decades longer than you. Show some respect junior.

There are many valid reasons to dislike the prequels. It's just that yours are dumb.