haljordan28 said:
Lucas claims ..at least this is what he says NOW. that the jedi fought that way in the OT bnecause vader was weak and a machine and luke was untrained and ben was an old man and that the jedi in PT were in their prime and fought flashy because of that. well this is another example of lucas blowing smoke up ppls ass;s and here is why
for one the whole ben was an old man argument maskles no sense..yoda was old dooku was old.. that didnt stop them from jumpoing around like ninja turltes..... general grivious was all machine just abiout and it didnt stop him.....the youngling in epuisoide 3 was young and mostly untrained and he looked like a ninja turtle also...this is all mopre LUCAS biullshit trying to excusxe his prequel junk...
heres the facts on the dueling styles....ion the OT era..lucas always claimed that the jedi were a mix of merlin the wizard and the knights of the round table.....hence him using old europeon style swod fighting....the same style sword fighting you find in braveheart, gladiator, lord of the rings, hifglander..etc..etc and that style was befitting of a jedi knight....
enter the junkquels,,,,think about what was popular at this time..martial arts, ninjas, pokemon, yugi oh..etc..etc lucas changed the dueling style to eastern based martial arts style. the saber duels in the pt looks just like sword fighting in any NINJA film or samuari film. sure its pretty and it looks good and i actually like it in martial arts films but not for star wars. it looks cherograhped and rehearsed. there is nothing real about it.
the dueling in the OT has a sense of realsim to it. in episode 5 when luke appraches vader he ignites his lightsaber...and takes a swing...vader blocks it calmpy...luke takes a step towards vader...vader slowly tkes a step back in a defensive move.... if this had been the prequels luke would have done a back flip up the steps and spinned around 4 times before even swinging on vader....vader would have done three flips and spins and twirlled his saber around 5 times before striking back at luke.
"The Truth" is a complicated thing, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about things George Lucas has said. I question any argument that includes quotes from Lucas as a basis.
It also seems odd that you use evidence from the PT (Dooku and Yoda lightsabering) to discredit the OT claim that Obi was old and out of practice.
The dueling styling in the OT changed considerably during the trilogy. Compare Obi/Darth to Luke/Darth II. At first Lucas insisted the lightsabers had to be worked two handed, but the fight choreographers convinced him to allow more one handed moves.
It seems to me that dramatically it makes sense that the duels are so different.
Obi/Darth= Old Man vs. Cyborg
Luke/Darth=Rookie vs. Cyborg who doesn't want to kill him
Maul/Qui/Obi= Sith Killing Machine vs. Two Jedi in their Prime
Obi/Anakin= Two best Jedi in the galaxy kicking ass.
I don't need Lucas to tell me any of those things. They seem obvious from the movies.