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gurgle1624 said:
What concerns me more than the body movement with Yoda, which I noticed but didnt really care about, is the scaling of the floating X-Wing as it advances towards Luke. It just seems that the scaling is off.
Compare the size of the front landing gear as it advances towards Luke (using Luke as a size guide) and then as it actually lands in the close up shot next to Luke.
Seems as if the X-Wing is smaller as it advances and then is its normal size as it lands, again using Luke as a guide.
Either that or Ive just had to much eggnog tonite.
Can't say that I've ever had any problem with the scale of the X-wing in this shot myself gurgle1624, but I had a look at it seeing as you mentioned it.
Personally, I'm still satisfied that it does the job reasonably well, given it's kind of 'forced perspective' look, and I reckon the bottom shot is a better one to use as a comparison of Luke's size beside the X-wing prop, overall -
I'm sure looking forward to eventually finding the time to go into a few thoughts/possibilities to do with all the other 'Dagobah' stuff that's been mentioned here recently.
adywan said:
Yes, i will be erasing the engines.
Great. Thanks for confirming that. :)
adywan said:
ImperialFighter, the medical frigate is a bit of a problem. It's going to be very hard to add the interior in the first shot. I haven't given up hope but there aren't any shots of the interior from that angle that I could add the missing elements. The shot that pans across from the falcon you can now see the droids in the window. The outer edges of the window i don't know if you would see it or not from the inside at those angles. I doubt i would be adding anything like that.
While it would be neat if anything at all could be done to enhance the first shot, then at least the removal of the 'glow' in the second shot would help match things, if it turns out not to be possible.
However, it's awesome news that you've been able to include a glimpse of C3PO and R2 into the panning close-up of the window adywan! :)
As far as the outside detail being slightly visible through the left-hand side of the full-scale window, I don't have any decent additional material to judge this properly. But as Monroville mentioned, the outer detail is at a slant compared to the inset window, and I'm interested to see whatever savmagoett draws up eventually.
Can you also confirm if it's going to be possible to match the actual shape of the miniature's inset window with the angles seen on the full-scale one, or not? (Monroville - that was certainly an interesting idea to alter all the full-scale shots instead, if not. Angles that match the miniature instead would work I guess, although it seems an awful lot of work)
adywan said:
I have erased the galaxy/forming star from the first 2 shots as there is no way you'd see it that early.
Yet another neat improvement, as I don't have to imagine the Medical Frigate is kinda 'circling around it in some kind of distant orbit' between the shots anymore! :)
HigHurtenflurst said;
Just a question from a curious observer... Do you guys ever find that obsessive frame by frame nit-picking of a movie like this, and the incredible amount of knowledge you have of all the behind the scenes magic ever prevent you from simply losing yourself in the story? Can you sit down, watch it from start to finish and lose yourself in it, or do you find yourself analyzing every little bit?
I've watched ANH:R many times now and love how all the little changes have made the SW world so much more vivid and real, and I expect even greater things from ESB:R and even so much more from ROTJ:R, but I don't have the level of involvement that you all seem to. I can still lose myself in it.
So, just wondering if the movie is still magic for all of you, like when you were 10, or if it's more of an appreciation of the technical elements now?
Well, my own personal take on this is that I definately can and do still lose myself in the movie's story where ANH:R is concerned...and have no doubt I will be able to do the same with ESB:R eventually, once the final release is completed and out there.
However, like ANH:R when I first saw it, it will take a few viewings to get used to the shock of the new (and improved) ESB over the previous versions that I've been used to over the years, so that I get the distracting appreciation of all the new enhancements out of my system.
When I watch ANH:R now, I can watch it as if the movie was always this way, right till the end. On the other hand, I'd find it difficult to watch either the original or SE versions now without being totally distracted...by all the little flaws and inconsistencies that adywan has touched up now!
So to sum up, it wouldn't be easy to immerse myself totally in ESB's story at the moment, if I was to watch the original or SE versions...but that's only because I've been involved in studying various scenes for inconsistencies for the time being. Once adywan has decided enough's enough at some point, and is satisfied with what he's done, I know his version will become my preferred one without a doubt...and I'll eventually be able to watch it for the storyline without any major distractions, once I've gotten used to it.
And this process will be repeated with ROTJ:R onwards, hopefully.
But if ol' George had just gone ahead and released his original versions on DVD in a high quality way years ago, I'd have been none the wiser, and have continued to love the O.T. the way it used to look to me. But ironically, his initial tinkering made me realise that he could have done so much better in many ways, when he tried to improve what I had already been very satisfied with. Thankfully, a guy came along who actually managed to. :)
