vaderios said:
Also its me or its the same shot that were used in the both sequences? if yes ( you can see in the overlay image) shouldnt be different one from the other? its more foggy too!
If tho you can consider to do some changes to the second establishing shot (yes even its for 4 seconds) i would like have it a bit zoomed out so the Xwing have more path to travel to the ground.
vaderios, although I started to draft this yesterday after seeing your comparison shots, I've only had a chance to finish this post off today. I'm a bit late to the party now it seems, but here's how I see this -
While the backgrounds in these 2 X-wing shots may be very similar (although not identical), I reckon they both still work pretty well overall. Thing is, the level of the background in the 2nd shot is positioned lower down than in the 1st shot...giving the (proper) impression that the X-wing has travelled nearer to the shore during the cutaway to Yoda, having passed over the 'watery' area we see in the 1st shot...and this is why we (correctly) see only the 'foggy' area in the 2nd shot...
However, I reckon there's a questionmark to do with how far away the X-wing's starting position seems to be from Yoda's, Luke's, and R2's position here, compared to how close it seemed to be to them in some previous shots... Depite this, the overall effect remains magical, of course. :)
Anyway, I just wanted to add that I remember really liking this particular mockup below of yours at the time...even though I'd like see a slightly 'gloomier' look to it overall, to match the look of the original a little better. (I think I'm right in thinking you grabbed a portion of the background 'set' from the shot where Yoda beckons back to Luke to follow him) -
I liked the extra 'reality' that the existing 'set' elements you used gave to the shot over the original painted matte. But even if adywan only gives it a slight enhancement eventually, I've no doubt that his version will look better than than the current SE shot. His recolouration alone will improve it, if nothing else.
adywan, good to see that you gave everyone an early christmas present of the Dagobah/Shuttle clip, as I was keen to see how you ended up finishing off that sequence, compared to the incomplete 'workprint'. The subtlety of your Yoda blinks is wonderful throughout, and now that I can see something else you've cleverly managed to do...it's thrown up a couple of issues I'd like to go into before too long. Since you've shown your current intentions, I'll finally get around to finishing off that humongous 'Dagobah' post which I've been meaning to get around to since ages. :) Some 'Dagobah' scenes are a continuity nightmare, and it won't be pretty...but although certain things will have to remain a compromise, I'm going to be interested to get your take on certain aspects of it all. (Before I get around to that though, I'm hoping to finish off a post concerning a few outstanding things I'm curious about, to do with the 'Medical Frigate' sequence which come before your now perfect Falcon trajectory scene)
But until then, here's a little something that I'd also like to hightlight. It's just a brief thing, but it's certainly something that always catches my eye now. It concerns the shots where Han enters the rebel hangar and dismounts -
At the end of the top shot, as shown here, there is a Snowspeeder situated beside the 'ice pillar' behind Han and his Taun-Taun...
...but when we then immediately cut to Han dismounting in close-up, we suddenly see the rear engines of an X-wing appear beside the pillar...
Is it possible for you to 'erase' the engines in the close-up of Han, so that we'd only see the 'ice pillar' here, so that this isn't such a jarring continuity error any more? See what you think.
Here's a large version of the top shot for a clearer look at what I mean - http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8/screenshot637.png