It's all gone mad in here.:) All this talk of re-framing and zooming shots to make them "more interesting" is madness and plain pointless.
vaderios said:
Make a shot from good to better and from better to best. Eveything nowadays has to prevized before the final product. So they calculate everything to the best possible result rather something simple.
And that's why most modern movies are crap. Just overblown music videos. You say that the OT cinematography is boring and needs to have all these weird re-framings etc to make it more like modern day film making, well no thank you. I find it pretty strange that you want to change all this to make the movies more interesting yet you are a huge Michael Bay fan? This is the guy who uses the same cinematography in EVERY MOVIE HE MAKES. He uses identical slow motion shots, slow pans, zooms etc every god damn movie. This is shit film making at it's finest. yes, some of his films can be entertaining upon first viewing but they are throw away films and i get so bored of using the same filming format over and over again. Give me the old '80's camerawork any day over this modern crap. You over-think something and it can turn into a turd. Sometimes the simplest option is the best.
And this is why i could never work with you on any of my edits and why 99% of your mockups i would never even consider, Vaderios. We have a totally different mind set. I'm also quite surprised at just how defensive you get if someone says they don't like one of your mock-ups.I think it's very disrespectful saying someone else's work is "crap" just because it wasn't done with today's technology. The matte work on the Star wars films was very good . It looked great and very convincing in the cinema first time around. the problem is that some have gotten use to the computer done mattes of today and forget that back then everything had to be painted by hand, with a brush and not on a computer.
AuggieBenDoggie said:
I really hope notoriety is not the real motive behind your ideas.
And this is what is resulting in your defensiveness. I can say that he isn't the only one who mentioned this, although he is the only one that's spoken out in the forum. I've had a LOT of people contacting me about the same thing. Now this probably isn't your true reason for being here but i thought i would just point out what is being said because of how you sometimes come across. It may well be down to the language barrier how you come across at times and i really hope it is.
I have been asked quite a lot as to the reasoning why reason why i am not working with you on Revisited and why i wouldn't give you a copy of the workprint. Also people have pretty much tried to tell me that it's down to artist jealousy. Well that isn't the case at all. I really do think you are a talented person but we're working from two completely different ideals. It would just never work on a professional level. But the main reason i won't is due to other matters, which i was never going to speak about, but with so many emailing or PMing me accusing me of being pig headed, jealous and other stuff, i think i need to set the record straight. It is because of the underhanded things you have done behind the scenes. I really do not appreciate someone who tries to trade clips or his work in order to get the exclusive clips etc i have posted in the past for donators (and this isn't just hear say because i have been sent your correspondence). I have kept quiet about this for a long time but too many people now have been contacting me telling me that i should give you a copy of the workprint, so i needed to explain why i wouldn't. I'm sorry, but i just couldn't trust you. I need to be able to work with people that i can trust completely not to let things slip out. You also seem unwilling to help anyone when asked. So many times have i seen people ask how you have done things, and this includes me asking you also. You just give a sarcastic or cryptic reply but not once have you given a proper reply. IF you are indeed here to help out with the project then why do you keep your methods so secret? It could really help others with their edits. This is another reason why people are starting to feel that you were just here for notoriety only.
Now i really need to catch up with all the comments made since the clip was posted before this thread got bogged down with the dagobah matte.