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adywan said:

CHRISTMAS CLIP TIME.....

I've decided to post this early because i don't know how much i will be online between now and Christmas with everything that's going on.

Enjoy :)

RAISING X-WING

Wow! Very nice! I enjoyed seeing the mouth movements and the blinking eyes.

Thanks and Merry Christmas, Adywan!

Lol now i saw clearer the fade that ady did to fix the ground bending when hi pass next to yoda.

Ady i see some sharp edge in the bottom of the fade. Like you put a still image (more like it) and you forgot to fade/paint the rest of the edges to match the overall shot.

I hope you gonna fix this :)

Its pity tho because in ANH:R you ve painted R2's eye cyan/azure when in the whole saga is more blueish.

I can see that its impossible to bother make R2's eye cyan/azure each time he blinks in ESB:R just wondering why you manage to make it that color in ANH:R

I agree with the others that the xwing should have some movement when R2 looks back.

Also its me or its the same shot that were used in the both sequences? if yes ( you can see in the overlay image) shouldnt be different one from the other? its more foggy too!

Now if I will listen the mp3 "The sequence was always perfect for me back in the 80s" its fine.

If tho you can consider to do some changes to the second establishing shot (yes even its for 4 seconds) i would like have it a bit zoomed out so the Xwing have more path to travel to the ground.

Any chance you will remove the intense vignettes that some shots have? For example when the Xwing sinking or when luke watches it sink. I know its a trick to hide detail and focus the eye to the action, just wondering if you want to recreate that simple detail and then make a subtler vignette that brakes of from the 80s?.

-Angel

shanerjedi said:

Vaderios  I remember that Dagobah mockup you did with Luke and Yoda in the background as the X-Wing floats up. Still love t.

Thanks.

Still a mockup for the bad vignette effects...

Matching the continuity and the lightning of the previous shots this shadow area should not be present. Not only apears on the sky but it embraces the fog of the lake too.

Ady fixed some of them in hoth battle, hopefully he might try these too

Edit:

Ady i noticed that your lens blur/fas blur from the unfocused shots even from ANH:R was not match with the lens blur of the 70/80s cameras. ESB shows us that when an object is unfocused it has a certain behaviour. For example if you see unfocused lights you can notice an edge around the unfocused element. Taking advandange of this and assuming you are having many shots with BG replacement why not try to make as close as possible to the 80s cameras using a more calibrated blur. More control it might have this plugin http://www.borisfx.com/units/LensBlur.php

I remember but im not sure that Andrew Kramer showed a technique that you can make a short of pseudo but realistic looking sharp edged lens blur with a couple of steps.

-Angel

Thank goodness Mr j! Finaly more CG!!!

This will be valuable!

-Angel

Be sure to check that thread, as he is completing more of it as he goes. It's looking more and more like a model, which is a good thing.

vaderios said:

I agree with ady there. A half change matte will match the rest of the shots. what i did there long time ago. it was quick and i remember some members comment the overall brightness. It was quick i didnt got into that so dont bother to judge it again ;)

Ady has already said he's not completely changing the matte like in your example. He is just going to brighten up matte to match the live action set.  I still like the original Matte better, and even more so when he enhances it.

Sorry sir.. I cant argue with you anymore on this matter.

You brighten up your self the shot and you see what a piece of cr@p it is and you are still supporting it.

Blue/black levels dead detail random whatever patterns of nothingness covering areas of black and the blending are hovering to the hazy tops of dagobah into the sharpness of the edges and so on.

Be my guest :)

-Angel

You have absolutely no idea how ady is going to enhance it, and Ady hasn't revealed anything more but saying original matte will be enhanced to match the set. My example was just a crude example to show more of the matte.

It seems that your the one thats really having the problem. You bug Ady constantly about changing pointless detail. Now don't get me wrong, there are a few of your suggestions that are really great, and those are the ones I don't respond to.

I really hope notoriety is not the real motive behind your ideas.

Guys, cool it. ;) I'm sure Ady sees the value in the suggestions coming from both of you. This thread has seen enough drama of late as it is.

No matter what, you just know the swamp scenes are going to look better than what we got on the DVDs, even if he just did color correction. But we know he's doing more and probably working on stuff we can't even see/imagine yet.

Even ady sometimes fixed details that the average viewer cant even spot half of them. I can put the word contribute rather bug.. ;)

I dont have any idea yes, but thats why i illustrate ideas of how something can be done better or give something that ady hadnt thought with that way.

Perfection is my real motive...yeah ;) thats more like it!

No hard feelings captain :)

-Angel

@DMaarten, Don't worry I know Ady will do great.

@Ripplin, it's all cool dude.

@Lemonstein, Varderios work is great, and I'm not knocking that one bit. It's just the constant badgering about pointless detail thats gets annoying. Nothing to get mad at all.

The case with the matte. I just see it differently thats all. In the 4 seconds that shot lasts, there hardly any time to study much of anything in the matte unless you pause the video. A complete change is practically a waste of time for such a short shot. Thats the only point I'm really debating. Enhancing the existing matte really is the best solution.

vaderios said:

Even ady sometimes fixed details that the average viewer cant even spot half of them. I can put the word contribute rather bug.. ;)

I dont have any idea yes, but thats why i illustrate ideas of how something can be done better or give something that ady hadnt thought with that way.

Perfection is my real motive...yeah ;) thats more like it!

No hard feelings captain :)

It's all cool Vaderios.

@Lemonstein, I don't think that there is any vignetting going on in that shot. Judging by Ady's color corrected shot of the same scene, it looks more like the lighting for the set doesn't cover the entire area very well. The set was not really all that big, and you can tell they tried to hide the end of the set with alot of fog and darker lighting. You can also barely make out some fake trees on the far side. I cant tell if they are painted or if they are physical props.

What do you guys mean by vignette, anyway? To me, that indicates a short video, like they use vignettes to introduce wrestlers so people know something about them before the debut. :p

As you can see there is nowhere next to the ship that weird darkness.

The vignetting is still there as you can see and i know they used it as a cheap way to make the space a bit more alien and claustrophobic. But its not affecting the area around the ship

Either adding a dark area to this shot above or remove it from the later ones. Why have something so awkward? ;)

What do you guys mean by vignette, anyway?

Its the black area around the shot that hides/lowers the brightness so you can focus on something else. common thing among the old movies.

-Angel

@Ripplin, vignetting is when the camera aperture is undersized and causes a slight dark tint around the picture frame. The same thing happens when a projector bulb is out of focus. You can see that example in alot of old time black and white silent films like the Charlie Chaplin movies for example.