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Author
Darth Chaltab
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Evil Empire...
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24-Apr-2004, 9:44 AM
Perhaps the US is arrogant. Look I've lived here in Tennessee all my life so I can't know how the rest of the world feels. But standing up for what is right isn't arrogance. And as long as America is the leader of the free world we will stand up for what is right. But it wasn't our percieved or real arrogance that lead to 9-11. We support Israel. We arent' an Islamic dictatorship. That is what lead to 9-11. And suppose you are right. Suppose they do hate us because we're cocky. That still gives them no right to murder 3000 non-combatant people. To borrow a phrase from Darrel Whorly, have y'all forgotten how it felt to see Three thousand innocent people blow away? Have you no sympathy for them?! Or is it reserved for the corrupt "religious leaders" who oppress the people of the middle east?

Reagan was stopping the spread of Communism. At the time bin Laden hadn't slaughtered 3000 innocent people and there was no way we could've know what would happen in 2001. And why do you say the war on Terror is "propaganda?" We must eliminate all the international terrorists. Terrorism will still exist I am sure but it will NOT be organized as Al Quaeda and NOT state-sponsered like the Taliban.
Timothy McVeigh couldn't have hijacked four planes himself.

If the IRA murder people then they should be brought to justice. But why can't Ireland do that themselves? The US doesnt' need to invade Ireland to stop the IRA. That's overkill. And "international" terrorism is attacking civilian targets in foreign countries. It has nothing to do with where you get the guns.

I'm sorry. I figured you would dismiss my opinions as worthless or uneducated because of my age. And I agree with most of what that paragraph said. But I don't believe my thinking about this subject needs to be changed. My opinions are my own and I'm skeptical that you can persuade me.
I don't think war is a good thing. I simply accept that it is a fact of life. And as you said, it will be until the eradication of sin.

Ok. I watch part of the flash. I find it disturbing. And I... Look. This is bad. The fact that those things happened was certainly a tragic thing. And I understant fully how those people might hate the US for what happended to them and their familes. But if we had left Hussein in power would it not be worse for them. For others. Why not watch a flash presentation of the Baath torturing people? It is tragic anytime a civilian is killed in war. But a "government' terrorising it's own civilians is as much of a tragedy if not more of one.

And yeah, it is a bad thing that we supported them and I really don't know why we didn't destroy them then. There was a failure of every administration's part to get them before they got us. But it was Clinton who sat around and had sex in the White house instead of doing something about terrorism. I don't want to play the "blame game." If we blame anyone, blame those who chose to kill US citizens.

When I said why doest the USSR keep coming up, I meant why blame Bush II for our foregin policy then?Reagan was president then. And no matter what you think of Reagan, there is no denying if it wasn't for him the SU wouldn't have collapsed when it did. And I know that there are still KGB people in high ranking offices in Russia. But the USSR as a whole has collapsed. They no longer have ICBMs pointed at us. As for recommending books. I recommend "The Way Things Ought to Be" by Rush Limbaugh (it's old but still fairly relevant, minus the war on terror) and "Deliver Us from EVIL" by Sean Hannity. These books present facts, not just opinions and the latter is very well-documented if you don't trust Hannity.

Well I'm surprised no limbs have gone flying (SW reference) in this debate yet. Well except for Motti's cussing... but he was probably drunk. Anyway. I'll subject myself to what y'all think now.

Edit: Look. I admit ignorance. I don't know enough about the IRA to argue any points made about them.