STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 846

Hey Adywan, just wondering about the wampa puppet you are creating, Im sorry if you have answered this question in the past, i might have missed it somewhere but I digress. Are you recreating a puppet on the Wampa for the Taun Taun attacks and cave scenes (as in ESB:SE) or just Taun Taun attack? Just wondering how your approaching the Wampa scenes?

If you can make the Wampa look good then I see no problem with it taking a while, might be a cliche but Rome wasnt built in a day.

I like i still see quotes "like/favorite/nostalgia/originality" in the shots that were suggested to be altered for artistic reasons and not for the 80s feeling. I accept that :) because its ady's edit. Still its not (for me) a strong reason for not doing it.

Anyways too much talking and less action. this was a request from a friend that pointed that the light comes from some source that lights the side of the executor weirdly. You can tell me that might is the sun that comes behind the bespin system and there is an other mysterious sun that comes behind the executor. I dont know how much with all the maneuvers from the falcon and the executor pursuit how the angles are changing and new lightsources are in present but even so the main light still comes from the left and the right light appears from nowhere... So:

This might look more proper..

Its me or it looks more awesome the duo colors for the executor rather have one tint all over it? Blueish for the hull and gray for the trench.

-Angel

I'm glad that you're keeping the Executor shot as it is Adywan, though one suggestion I am in favor of is this shot:

It doesn't detract from the asteroid hitting the Star Destroyer's bridge, and it does show the Executor's underside a bit better.

Interesting. The shot of the bespin chase showed a similar angle for a possible replacement. Still tbh i wouldnt like have the same angle again but still posting it for 2 reasons. I flipped the shot

Its nice that the light still stays in the correct direction (for the asteroid shot) its easy for ady can use this shot and make the bottom dark as hell to match the previous one.

The second reason is (flipped) why are the Ties are firing away from the falcon. I can only assume that is a compositing mistake back then and i have no doubts that ady already fixed that.

Good to see that the detailed underbelly shot have some visual impact not only to me :)

-Angel

We never see deflector shields in the Original Trilogy. Why start now?

So are you suggesting to lighten up the previous shots when you are clearly see that the trench is dark as hell? I kept the details i kept the lights with every visual impact available. I still think my version is more organic from the original flat one. Not to mention it looks less like a prop ;)

-Angel

How about going halfway between the lighter version and your dark one? Could still have a lot of pop to it if done right.

I saw that coming. ;)

Be my guest. In the contrary with the previous light and dark star destroyer shot (needa's shuttle) i used no roto for the lights. Only some masks for the colors/space some fixes to the lights and ofc the MF's engine. it can be done!

-Angel

Monroville said:

Also, any word on (1) the yellow/orange lights on the Executor nose being recolored to match the blue along the side of the ship and

Sorry, didn't see this the first time. Yes the lights have been recoloured at the tip in that shot along with the removal of the bad garbage matte on the executor from the closest stardestroyer.

Angel, i really don't think that the darkness of the Executor looks any better than it being too light. In fact i think it looks worse. It doesn't have to be that dark. Visually it's now become lost in the sea of stars. I've recoloured and darkened it a little but i won't be changing it any more.

What really depresses me about this shot is just how much they destroyed the detail due to the crushed blacks. Another thing i noticed is that they recomposited the falcon for the 2004 release as it's in a slightly different position from previous versions

Thx Vaderios for the mock-up... I think Buckethea...uh, Ripplin is right in that,while it may be the exact light scheme as the side trench as seen in all other previous shots, it may be too dark as it blends with the space on the other side of the screen.

I would suggest a half-way point with the brightness level but also add more of the blue lighting.  My main thing is that the side of the Executor is damn near lit up like the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS mothership (albeit with just blue lighting, as opposed to the pale orange lighting the CE3K ship had) - the side shot has fewer lights and windows than the overall full-scale model has on its side trenches.

Another possibility could be to lighten the top and bottom flat parts of the main body, so as to help distinguish and seperate the body of the Executor with the space around it.  As a higher-concept type idea, I could almost see spotlights highlighting the Falcon as it flies by too (which could help make the side shot stand out while still retaining the previous established look throughout EMPIRE).  Maybe we need to hire Jaitea to create a base moving mock-up to see how it would look in motion...

EDIT: just read your new post, Ady (thx on the nose lights change - that always looked wierd to me).  I agree with you on the Executor trench shot... I would say that if you did any more alterations, I would simply add more of the blue lighting/windows, as the lighting is a bit sparser than it should be (going by Angel and my mock-up with the side shot as well as others). 

Okay, your pic just downloaded completely... most excellent!  I think the color timing of the trench metal is perfect, but again I would maybe add some more blue lighting:



Not so much the orange spherical lights, and maybe not any of the spotlight stuff (or a few of them tracking the Falcon, though that would have to be for a rough test, as I can see it not working as well), but the overall effect, as the current trench shot is a lot more metal than lights.



vs.:



the image actually "dulled down" when I saved it in Gimp 2.0 or MSpaint, but I'm specifically looking at the overall center section of the trench above in comparison with the close-up trench shot above it.

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BTW, isn't it funny that the one shot in the 2004 SE that SHOULD be blue (or bluish) isn't?

Hmm i see no big difference there ady apart the clarity of the falcon and some fixed colors.. pity the engine had more detail to the 2004 version. I think the overdone white boost made the engine looks more like GOUT.. Anyways..

I still would like to see the hull parts have different color and the overall brightness apart the stars the falcon and the lights should toned down even more.

Ive managed to see that only some dark spots were darkened in your version.(nice you kept the same starfield)

Im pretty sure that i left enough brightness so it doesnt look like the rest of the stars but still its your call ady. Besides you know the presence of the ship but you are focusing on the falcon and the lasers from the ties.

But its your edit ady ;)

I can almost say the GOUT shot looks the more PT-like of all, it could even match some shots of the opening scene of EPIII withut feeling the difference

Not even close :P

@:I know all these points there DarthJarJar ;) you dont have to defend ESB to me. ;)

-Angel

Speaking of which, having seen your pics V, I guess another question for Ady:

Are all of the TIE fighters going to have red engines visible from behind?  I'm not sure if all of the rear shots of TIE fighters/bombers/etc retain visible red engine glows.

Brainfood!

http://www.therpf.com/f9/building-hoth-wampa-door-set-nutshell-84725/

I hope you can contact with these guys ady for Hoth hangar details

-Angel

vaderios said:

Hmm i see no big difference there ady apart the clarity of the falcon and some fixed colors.. pity the engine had more detail to the 2004 version. I think the overdone white boost made the engine looks more like GOUT..

OOps, posted the wrong snapshot. That's the 97 SE AVCHD, not Revisited, which is why the engine is so overblown. Too many layers in Vegas & enabled the AVCHD layer by mistake when taking all the snapshots. Here is the proper revisited version

adywan said:

vaderios said:

Hmm i see no big difference there ady apart the clarity of the falcon and some fixed colors.. pity the engine had more detail to the 2004 version. I think the overdone white boost made the engine looks more like GOUT..

OOps, posted the wrong snapshot. That's the 97 SE AVCHD, not Revisited, which is why the engine is so overblown. Too many layers in Vegas & enabled the AVCHD layer by mistake when taking all the snapshots. Here is the proper revisited version