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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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8-Dec-2010, 4:12 AM

adywan said:

If i was to change the angle of the ship then wouldn't i have to use an existing shot for this, which would then create a copy paste scenario?  The shot is fine as it is.  I've never had a problem with it, and i don't think there would be any stardestroyers following it out as vader would have ordered them to continue the search for the falcon.

Since I was mulling over whether to add my own 2 cents about this initial response at the time a couple of days ago anyway, I guess I might as well chip in now -

Personally, I'm very glad that the original look of this shot is being kept as it is, because it was always one of my favourite effects shots of the Executor.  As was previously shown, it is noticeably different to how it looks in the first reveal of it earlier in the movie, and I reckon it's 'overhead' view as it exits the asteroids, is a superior and more ominous look somehow, than a 'side-on' replacement would be...

...and I have to agree with the notion that we wouldn't necessarily see any 'accompanying' stardestroyers at this point, which I'll come back to.

 

And I also have to say, that rather than a 'flpped' re-use of another shot, that I also happen to prefer this particular section of the Executor too, as seen in the original shot from earlier on in the movie...

...because I like the colour that the engine glow gives to this shot (even though I guess the new asteroid explosion will probably give some colour too)...and because of the 'scale' comparison that we get here between the command tower on the SD nearest us, in relation to the distant command tower we see on the Executor.

(And although you really need to study the footage in motion, I think that all 3 stardestroyers here are filmed in such a way that they all slightly 'pan around' upwards in unison during the shot...and I don't know if adding the 'flipped' section of the Executor would match this movement properly anyway)

Anyway, going back to the 'accompanying' Stardestroyers thing - when we intially see this shot where the asteroid smashes into the SD tower, all these stardestroyers are presumably still pretty much inside the asteroid field at this point.  We then cut to Vader inside the Executor telling his (remaining) hologram commanders "...I want every ship available to sweep the asteroid field until they are found" (including the ones that were 'accompanying' the Executor in the 'asteroid explosion' shot beforehand, presumably)... before telling Piett to move the ship out of the asteroid field for a better transmition to the Emperor, as he rounds the corridor.  We then immediately cut to the shot of the Executor exiting the asteroids seen at the very top here...but I always see this shot as being a slight 'jump ahead in time', rather than the Executor just happening to be about to exit the asteroids at that point anyway. 

I at least allow enough time for Vader to have gone around the corner, down the steps, through the doorway and into his chamber (which I always think of as being positioned not too far away from the Bridge, as described many moons ago)...before I imagine we're at the point that the very top shot shows, before we then immediately cut to Vader approaching the Emperor's hologram.  In other words, I imagine the Executor has 'pulled away' from it's 'accompanying' stardestroyers by the time we see it exit the asteroids, as they have slowed and remained futher back, sweeping inside the field as Vader ordered...and are therefore now offscreen in the frame.  That's just my own take on things of course.

 

Finally, and this is just a very minor thing adywan, but this comparison shot reminded me of something I'd noticed about the underside view of the Executor...

...in the top version (which is our first proper view of the Executor in the movie), the detail that 'juts out' underneath seems different to how it looks in the bottom (reversed) version seen here.  It's no biggie, but I'm wondering if this bit of the top version it can be tidied-up a little to match better?  Especially when we have just immediately cut from this 'close-up' of how it's lit.  Note: I'm referring to the end area of the bit that 'juts out' here...

See what you think.