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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 38

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Who is making fun of him? We're just complaining about a shitty low quality product he sold, like a crappy toaster. (Also, I hate to break it to you, but he's not your dad or your lovable uncle or whatever the hell angle they're pushing at conventions, you don't actually have any kind of connection to him that you don't also have with the head of Taco Bell.)

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But why be so critical of GL? I don't understand the fan bashing of him. He created star wars just be happy with the films insted of complaning every single change in them. 

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kenkraly2007 said:

Stop making fun of GL Adywan and stop saying the prequels are bad films they are not just episode 1 is.

This I find funny, as Episode I is the best of the prequels by a mile, and easily the closest in feel to the OT (which isn't saying much, as it's still lightyears away).

But seriously, dude, you're on the wrong site.

And I'll continue to bash George Lucas until he gets his head out of his ass and starts allowing the theatrical versions of his films (Star Wars, THX 1138, and American Graffiti) to be released on DVD and Blu-Ray in acceptable quality.

Oh, also, the "just be happy with the films" thing - I am happy with the films.  The ones he released in 1977, 1980, and 1983.

What I'm not happy with is the 1997 or 2004 versions - and even those I wouldn't mind if he allowed the original versions to coexist alongside them.

I'm also not happy with his 1999, 2002, and 2005 films, and I don't see why I should be.  They weren't good, and I shouldn't have to "be happy with them" just because Lucas made them.

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Ken, did you just say Episode I is bad? I guess your lecture only applies selectively.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Stop making fun of GL Adywan and stop saying the prequels are bad films they are not just episode 1 is.

Where did i make fun of GL? Seriously dude you must be living in a parallel universe or something. Common, i'm laying down a challenge for you to show me exactly where in my statement before you wrote this did i make fun or bash GL.

It's common knowledge that GL thinks the OT is inferior to the PT as he has gone on record saying so. Stating a fact is not making fun of someone. I really think you need to go back to school and learn how to read because you are seeing things that just aren't there. And i will say that the prequels are bad films til the day i die because they are and people like you can't ever stop me.

Every time someone disagrees with you you almost seem like you're going to burst out crying with your replies.

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Thanks for clearing that up adywan. I am sorry if it mean that you said it you did'nt now do you forgive me? I am sorry ok. I belive you now. And I know how to read I am not some little child.

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I am not a troll stop calling me that stop ok. All you like to do is make fun of me just because I have a different opinion than you guys. Enough is enough allready.

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Bottom line is, we have knowledge backing up our claims, you have hope.

YOU THINK George Lucas is gonna release the films in stunning quality.

WE KNOW he won't.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Kenkraly2007 wrote:

I am not a troll stop calling me that stop ok. All you like to do is make fun of me just because I have a different opinion than you guys. Enough is enough allready.

You are quite wrong again.  You are one of the definitions of a troll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

Kenkraly2007 you are the first definition, "Inflammatory".  Yes you have an opinion and it's fine to have one, and it's ok to post it periodically, but the moment you post that same opinion, it's been about 20 times already with no other added information, you are inflammatory.

This thread is to discuss the upcoming blu-ray.  What people have done for the most part is discuss what they would like to see from the release but also what LFL has done in the past.  Those details/facts of past releases generate an impression of what's going to happen.  The moment you post once that you think everything will be ok, that's the end of your contribution to the thread.  We've got it, you think it will be ok.  But when people respond with posts which inform by brining up details unknown to the thread previously, that's called being helpful.  When you respond with the same opinion worded differently, that's the essence of being a troll.  If I went into every thread and posted "I like this" after every statement, that's being a troll. 

The moment you make your opinion known, you have to learn to contribute to the thread differently, this is usually done by bringing up facts from somewhere else or ideas unknown.  Really ask your parents to explain this to you.

and while you are talking to them, discuss why you need to edit every post.  Maybe you should write your response, save them to draft, then reread them 10 minutes later, then post them.

And I know how to read I am not some little child.

There is a difference between reading and comprehension.  If you are not a little child, you are either still a child, english is not your first language, or something else.

 

But I give you credit for being able to do very little and gather attention, but if you keep this up, you're going to have a very difficult life.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Leave Lucas Alone

Stop making fun of GL Adywan and stop saying the prequels are bad films they are not just episode 1 is.

 

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I don't mean to be such a troll I am just trying to fit in here ok.  I just can't stand the GL bashing from fans he created both star wars and indiana jones without him none of those series whould not of happen.

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But the problem is he destroyed both franchises over the last 15 years, and has refused to release the OT in any presentable quality. I wouldn't bash him if he respected the theatrical versions of the OT and not consider them rough drafts we had the misfortune of loving. And the last we ever saw of the OOT was the GOUT, which he didn't even bother to put any effort into because it would break the dogmatic monolith of the PT/SE. In the end, I am angry with him because he has willed the destruction of film history and I will never forgive him for that. 

On a side note, If the OT cannot be preserved, than no film should be preserved. We should destroy every reel of film if it means those three films should rot because of the creator's insanity and abuse of copyright laws.

 

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I see your point and I agree the oot should be prervered. However I continue to support GL.

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Well, I (and many here) don't, because of everything he's done since 1997.  I don't understand how you can blindly support all his decisions, even when his decisions are as shitty as they have been for the last 13 years.

Come to think of it, if it weren't for Indiana Jones, I wouldn't support anything he did between 1980 and 1997, either.  Empire was the last great Star Wars film - he hasn't made a single good decision about the franchise since it came out.  It's like it was a domino effect that began with Gary Kurtz leaving.

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That's why if you really think about it, there is no real of hope of seeing the OT in good quality. Even if fans make their own reconstruction, they cannot get any better than early 90s quality in video standards. And don't say we'll magically find some print of the original three movies that escaped the clutches of LFL, in the same vein as Metropolis. It's just a shame that Lucas has become an illogical business man high in his tower. Otherwise none of this nightmare would be happening.

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kenkraly2007 said:

he created both star wars and indiana jones

And he created this travesty in film, so that cancels out previous awesomeness.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Seems like some people don't keep up with the 16mm preservation efforts around here.

And some of us like Howard the Duck, thank you very much. At least we got it on DVD in it's untouched 1986 version. If it had been anyone else's name on the producer credit, there wouldn't have even been much of a fuss. There are far worse adaptations of Marvel comics out there. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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And how does Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure rate?

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Maybe I've become out of touch, but I'm honestly surprised if Lucas expects the initial blu-ray set to sell like gangbusters the way the '04 dvd set did.

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Relative to market penetration, it probably will come within striking distance in my opinion.

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SW on blu will sell like mad. It doesn't matter what version, because the general public will not care. "It's new, HQ, HD, and looks great! What's your problem?"

I used to have respect for the people of the New Hollywood. Then they got lobotomized and emasculated or burned out or destroyed.

I can understand people not wanting to bash GL for the fact that he did make these wonderful films. That was my mentality until the butchering of THX and the 3D plan.

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adywan said:

They did a new transfer to add the CG Yoda. This was unveiled at the Star Wars concert tour. The colours are great, cleaned up picture without overdoing it and none of the edge enhancement (that i could see) that plagued the old transfer. It looked amazing and really showed just how little GL cares about the OT. Seeing a star wars episode looking so great and then switching to shots of the messed up versions of the OT was depressing

Yes, I was impressed too with TPM footage at Star Wars: In Concert. If there is a Blu-Ray movie worth buying, is that one.

kenkraly2007 said:

Stop making fun of GL Adywan and stop saying the prequels are bad films they are not just episode 1 is.

Episode I is the best of the prequels. How can you say to people to stop saying the prequels are bad, when you did the same yourself about the best of them?