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xhonzi said:
It's not like I'm trying to be the best man at your wedding or anything.
Yeah, back off sister, I was promised that gig.
It's not like I'm trying to be the best man at your wedding or anything.
Speaking of which, we need to see if we can play with C3PX again.
Do you have a weekend coming up that would be good?
Actually, how is tonight?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
xhonzi said:
It's not like I'm trying to be the best man at your wedding or anything.
Yeah, back off sister, I was promised that gig.
I'm not sure what the plan is after Harry Potter. I'll let you know.xhonzi said:
It's not like I'm trying to be the best man at your wedding or anything.
Speaking of which, we need to see if we can play with C3PX again.
Do you have a weekend coming up that would be good?
Actually, how is tonight?
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Deleted Magic
I'm waiting for Star Wars Begins. How is Deleted Magic?Sluggo said:
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Only about my favorite Star Wars fan film of all time. It has a few errors in it, and the source material quality is often all over the place, but it is really cool.
OCP maybe frowned upon here lately, but he was the reason i found this place, when i hunted down his 'project'. Deleted Magic was pure magic to me when i found it. DS rates it at 6 out of 5 stars ;-)
Yeah, Deleted Magic is pretty awesome. That and The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut are two best projects OCP ever did, and they're both worth seeking out.
Once again not exactly films but I had the pleasure of watching the BBC 80's Sci-Fi time travel play The Flipside Of Dominick Hide and it's equally charming but not exactly needed sequel Another Flip For Dominick.
Like the 1979 WNET production of The Lathe Of Heaven it's really worth a watch and has a very delicate sense of whimsy that Star Wars used to have before George decreed that burp, fart and poop jokes were the order of the day.
Also you have to cut it a bit of slack because it is the BBC in the 80's but even so the few special effects in it aren't quite has homebaked as Doctor Who or Blake's 7 of the day.
How was HP7.1?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
I've heard very good things from everybody I've talked to that's seen it. I myself haven't had the chance, unfortunately.
Every time one of the new movies comes out, my mom re-reads all 7 books just before seeing the new movie. I always tell her not to because every time, without fail, she walks out hating the movie because of how different it was compared to the book. Usually she warms up to it later, but she still doesn't understand how Half-Blood Prince can be my favorite of all the movies, or how Order of the Phoenix can be my second favorite.
Anyway, she re-read all 7 before seeing Deathly Hallows Part 1, as per usual. She called me after seeing it, and she didn't have a single bad word to say about it - it instantly became her favorite of the series, which says to me that it's pretty damn faithful to the book.
She did say that the scene with the Horcrux showing Ron the vision of Harry and Hermione kissing was "too intense" - apparently Harry and Hermione are naked in the scene.
ChainsawAsh said:
- apparently Harry and Hermione are naked in the scene.
I find that a little to difficult to believe. What are Harry and Hermione doing kissing anyway? I was under the impression that Hermione was Ronnie's girl and that Ronnie's sister was Harry's girl.
I think I am going to watch the first 6 movies again before going to see 7.1. I want make sure I remember all that went on before.
*Cough*
There are far to many clothes on to be classed as nude for me.
Just seen Eat The Rich for the first time in many years and it's probably more relevant now than it was back then.
Darth Solo said:
*Cough*
There are far to many clothes on to be classed as nude for me.
I do not believe that J. K. Rowling wrote a scene in which Hermione would be topless and just in underwear in front of a shirtless Harry. I suspect there has been some tampering with the above photo.
Darth Solo said:
*Cough*
There are far to many clothes on to be classed as nude for me.
It's naked enough for me... Who thought I wanted to see this when I went to see Harry Potter?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
And where's Harry's scar? Warbler, you may be right to doubt.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
xhonzi said:
It's naked enough for me... Who thought I wanted to see this when I went to see Harry Potter?
well, I don't think they made the film solely for you. I am will to bet you a lot of money that there many teenage boys whom would love to see Hermione without clothes .
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And where's Harry's scar? Warbler, you may be right to doubt.
yeah, makes it certain: its a fake.
I'm pretty sure that's actually a pic from Equus, the play Dan Radcliffe was in a few years ago.
The Harry/Hermione kiss scene in the book was one of JKR's more unfortunate writing choices, in my opinion. I know she was trying to debunk the notion of them being romantically involved once and for all by having Ron destroy the false image with Gryffindor's sword (since so many delusional fools insisted Harry and Hermione had twoo wuv no matter how many times the author denied it!), but it's not really a very good way of going about doing that because it throws fuel on the fire at the same time just by presenting that image at all. I pretty much rolled my eyes in exasperation when I read it.
(spoilers ahead) Actually, though, I didn't care for the seventh book as a whole, for a number of reasons:
Harry's character regresses significantly in maturity from what he achieved in book six; suddenly it's okay for good guys to use Unforgiveable Curses, when book four stressed how bad a thing this was; half the book is taken up by the heroes sitting around in a forest doing absolutely NOTHING; all the doubting of Dumbledore was really tiresome and irritating; Ginny Weasley gets virtually no screen time whatsoever, despite having been played up previously as the love of Harry's life; Peter Pettigrew dies like an insignificant punk despite the strong emphasis in book three of the fact that Harry saved his life and that this would be important later; the Invisibility Cloak is suddenly said to be some super important artefact even though this has no bearing at all on the plot; Snape perving on Harry's mother??!!; Voldemort's death being the most contrived and nonsensically stupid solution I've ever read (talk about pulling something out of your ass at the last minute . . . !)
So basically the main problem is that it fails to follow through on points raised in earlier books, or does so in a rancid and unconvincing manner. That was pretty much the end of my days of Harry Potter obsession. I still have hope that a few of these may be rectified somewhat by a slightly altered manner of presentation in the films--in any case I think I'll automatically like them better, because there's nowhere to go but up. lol
I've watched the first five HP films again so far, still have the sixth one left before I go to see DH. Possibly will watch six today and go out for seven tomorrow. I find Order of the Phoenix to be the best of the movies by quite a long way, even without the benefit of a John Williams score (I do really miss his music in the later ones).
First - that picture is not from the movie.
Second - it's not actually Harry and Hermione kissing. It's a vision shown to Ron by one of Voldemort's Horcruxes essentially to get him pissed off at Harry and Hermione.
In the book, IIRC, he sees them make out for a bit, and the vision ends.
As it's meant to be traumatizing for Ron, it was decided to have them naked in the movie in order to make it even more traumatizing.
However, no actual nudity is seen, from what I understand. It is, after all, a PG-13 "family" movie.
if it is rated PG-13, I don't think it can be regarded as a family movie.
Hence why I put it in "quotes."
Most families nowadays don't bat an eye at PG-13, in my experience. You wouldn't believe the complaints we got when I worked at the theater in my town when Batman Begins came out.
Apparently it's our fault that a 7-year-old wouldn't sleep for a week because her parents took him to see a PG-13 movie, since "Batman is supposed to be a family thing." Harry Potter would just make that perception even stronger, being that the first few movies were obviously aimed at kids.
Am I the only one that's seen it then? Ghost images obscured by fog do not a porno make. It was nothing, and it just confirms my belief that you should be at least the characters' age when you watch/read.
The movie itself did what it needed to do: cut down the fist half of a really long book to a fairly entertaining movie. In the beginning, I liked how dark it was. But then most of the movie was like that. Part 1 is the ESB of the series, but only the last act of the movie. The bad guys win, the heroes barely escape, over and over again. It takes most of the movie to learn that the Deathly Hallows even exist (much like I felt the identity of the Half Blood Prince was almost a throwaway line in the last movie).
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HP7.1 really highlights a problem I found with the entire series: an almost complete lack of foreshadowing. When Rowling wants to bring in some element to the magical world, the book it's needed is the first and probably only book you'll find it. Portkeys? Introduced in Book 4, only because she needed a way for Harry to be teleported somewhere without anyone knowing who did it. Horcruxes ? Thrown into the end of Book 6, overshadowed in Book 7 by the Deathly Hallows which we don't hear a single word about until halfway through Book 7 where it takes the characters the rest of the book to realize that 2/3 of the Hallows were in Dumbledore's possession for years but he never used them to defeat Voldemort for good, and even gave one of then to an 11 year old boy! Thats not foreshadowing, that's needing a way out and using elements you already created in a new, completely unexplained light. I can't go back and read the earlier books and find some kind of hint that was there the whole time because there isn't one.
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Sorry, I'm done now. The movie was a good setup, they got through the whole part of the book that basically read "and then nothing continued to happen"
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I agree, 005: that problem is especially evident in the last book. Things that did seem to be foreshadowed earlier turn out to amount to nothing, and the actually important plot elements spring up out of nowhere. Certain comments JKR made in interviews and such over the years do hint at some of the things that happen later, in retrospect, but she would have done well to include such hints in the actual books themselves to a greater degree, because as it is they fall flat and conflict with previously established facts.
She did bring up in the first one that the wand chooses the wizard, and that using someone else's wand isn't nearly as good as your own, but nowhere did it ever hint that disarming someone was enough to force their wand to your ownership. Apparently this works even if you just grab it out of their hand rather than using a spell, and works for a wand that the person didn't even know they owned, which happens to be over 400 miles away. And this in turn is the key to winning everything. I'm sorry, but how the F#$% does that make any sense at all?!?! *head-desk*
If in the movie they end up changing it so that the Elder Wand chooses Harry because he displays some sort of magical prowess, I'll be very happy indeed. It would really help if he, you know, had actually physically touched it at some point . . .
I'm glad to hear that the 50,000 pages of sitting around wiping their asses with leaves in the middle of the book is more interesting in the movie. Good lord, reading that part was so boring.
Still, even with all my grievances towards the last book, I'm looking forward to seeing the movies considerably, because they are always fun to watch and it's kind of sad that something that's been going on for so long is coming to an end. I really did adore the early books, especially Prisoner of Azkaban.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who sees that. Thanks, hen!
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