What is wrong with Return of the Jedi? — Page 8

Author: ricarleite
Time: 22-Apr-2004 2:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
This is my last politics related post in this thread. I promise.

Bush not a leader? Right. I'm sure the charisma-free John F Kerry will make a great leader.

Both are puppets, one is on the right, the other one's on the left. But hey let's talk about this on the off-topic session! Here, the only politics discussed is the fall of the republic and the rise of the empire.

“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering

Author: Warbler
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:13 PM
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Last word on politics Bush is more of puppet and a more extreme puppet. that all

Author: Han's Girlfriend
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:18 PM
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Isn't there a thread here just for this kind of discussion?

ROTJ: only problem is that the scenes on Endor are a little too cheesy. all the rest is ESB worthy!

do you think it would have been better with wookies instead of ewoks, as it was originally planned?

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."

Author: die-jarjar-die
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:23 PM
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hell yeah! wouldn't have left such a bad taste in my mouth!

well at least old GL is returning to that idea & using the wookies in episode 3! Let's hope there's no return of that diabolical Tarzan impression that Chewie utters in ROTJ

*shudders, skin crawls, bad taste returns*

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Author: Han's Girlfriend
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:35 PM
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wookies in ep3?? when? where? how?

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."

Author: die-jarjar-die
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:40 PM
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oops maybe i should have attached spoiler warnings

Damn someones gonna have my nether regions for that

um..yeah there will be....hmmmm.....perhaps I shouldn't say anymore?

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Evil ugly dudes: "YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

Author: Han's Girlfriend
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:45 PM
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you can still go back and edit your post...

but I'd really like to know more now!

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."

Author: die-jarjar-die
Time: 22-Apr-2004 3:49 PM
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hehhe ok but you have to promise to post after this that you've read it so i can go back & edit it! ok? deal?

ok......

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I like eating jelly raw, RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWWRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i said!

CENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSORED

Well thats kinda all i know for now!

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Evil ugly dudes: "YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

Author: Han's Girlfriend
Time: 22-Apr-2004 4:00 PM
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don't know how to feel about this.

thanx for the info and have a good night...eerrrmm... i mean day (already 2am *gasp*)!

EDIT: Spoilers savely removed. Mission completed.

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."

Author: die-jarjar-die
Time: 22-Apr-2004 4:02 PM
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hehehe yeah i think its to satisfy the fans (oooer missus)

best edit me post ie delete it before someone gets upset..mayb u best do the same?

lol

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Evil ugly dudes: "YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

Author: sweyland
Time: 22-Apr-2004 4:02 PM
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Well now that the thread is back on track, I just wanna add that Return of the Jedi is my second favoruite after The Empire Strikes Back. Is it perfect? Heck no (nothing is, after all). But it all just works for me and I love it.

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 22-Apr-2004 4:24 PM
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ESB and then ROTJ for me as well...

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)

Author: DocCovington
Time: 22-Apr-2004 5:41 PM
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Ditto.

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Harold: The way of the warrior doesn't stand a chance against the way of the wife.
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Author: Samatar
Time: 22-Apr-2004 6:40 PM
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ESB and ROTJ seem more "stylish" to me than the earlier ANH. I think that is why I like them better in some ways too. I definitely like ESB best, it has so many great elements; the introduction of the Imperial March alone is almost enough to justify this IMO. And Vaders helmet seems so much shinier in ESB than the other two! Hmmm perhaps I have an unhealthy fixation there...

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Author: Warbler
Time: 22-Apr-2004 6:46 PM
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my favorites in order

1 Star Wars
2 Empire Strikes Back
3 Return of The Jedi

Author: Bossk
Time: 23-Apr-2004 5:49 AM
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ESB then ANH then ROTJ.

Yes, ROTJ would have been better with Wookiees than with Ewoks. Do you think Lucas was on the losing end of an originality battle when coming up with the name "Ewok". Move the E to the end and you've nearly got Wookiee. Coincidence? I think not.

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Author: ricarleite
Time: 23-Apr-2004 7:16 AM
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About the Ewok thing... theres a scene in ROTJ where C3PO is telling their story to the Ewoks in their own language, one of the words he says is Naboo. Coincidence? Yes, coincidence. I don't know why did I bother you guys about it...

Author: Han's Girlfriend
Time: 23-Apr-2004 7:24 AM
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or maybe GL starts to have trouble inventing new and strange sounding names. even heard that it is not him that named the city Coruscant but that he took it from one of the UE books.

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."

Author: die-jarjar-die
Time: 23-Apr-2004 7:28 AM
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that's true Han's Girlfriend. Timothy Zhan created the planet Coruscant in his 1st Star Wars novel Heir To The Empire.

And GL likes us to believe that the EU is not cannon & counts for nothing?

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

It's only not true when it's not convenient to his "story telling" skills!

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Evil ugly dudes: "YIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

Author: Bossk
Time: 23-Apr-2004 8:23 AM
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Coruscant didn't exist prior to Heir to the Empire? Really? I swore it was in ROTJ (aside from the SE).

Author: sweyland
Time: 23-Apr-2004 9:16 AM
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Yeah, early script drafts had versions of the Imperial City as Alderaan, Cloud City, and the Emperor's Throne room in ROTJ before they moved it over to Death Star 2. It was Zhan using those early descriptions who coined the name Coruscant. I'm not a big fan of those books or Lucas even, but he does admit who used the name first.

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Originally posted by: motti_soL
ESB and then ROTJ for me as well...

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Originally posted by: DocCovington
Ditto.

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Originally posted by: Samatar
ESB and ROTJ seem more "stylish" to me than the earlier ANH. I think that is why I like them better in some ways too. I definitely like ESB best, it has so many great elements; the introduction of the Imperial March alone is almost enough to justify this IMO. And Vaders helmet seems so much shinier in ESB than the other two! Hmmm perhaps I have an unhealthy fixation there...

Already now, everybody with me...

Return of the Jedi is number 2! NUMBER 2! NUMBER 2... !

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Author: Bossk
Time: 23-Apr-2004 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by: sweyland
Already now, everybody with me... Return of the Jedi is number 2! NUMBER 2! NUMBER 2... !

ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!! ROTJ IS NUMBER 3!!!

Sorry, just had to...

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 23-Apr-2004 1:41 PM
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Anyone notice how much more... um... calm this thread is without Jimbo?

Anywho. Yes Wookies in RotJ would've been freakin' awesome. But, hey. They are saving the Wookie battle to the final theatrical Star Wars property. So I guess it's a saving the best for last thing.

Author: motti_soL
Time: 23-Apr-2004 3:51 PM
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take it easy bossk, before you get something...

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)

Author: ricarleite
Time: 24-Apr-2004 4:59 AM
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I actually like all the movies from the original trilogy equally, I can't say that ANH is better than ROTJ, or that ESB is better than ANH. They are all #1 to me.