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See you all in 7-8 months!

Mithrandir said:

What Plans? said:

What if the X-wings don't make a lot of wind when taking off?  Come to think of it, most of the ships in Star Wars take off without much external disturbance.

 you are totally right, that's why I also talked about a slight tremblor, or something. There's something in that scene that makes me feel like if something was missing. the same feeling some scenes involving lightgames in Close encounters of the third kind give me.

 Mithrandir, you can't just add a "tremblor" as you call it without reshooting the scene with a breeze blowing. Besides, the scene is just fine as it already is.

Kurgan said:

See you all in 7-8 months!

Hey we can hope right? If only.

Here's hoping that Adywan's health is good, taking care of your parents, doing edits, plus everything else, I can see the stress that must take its tole.

Take it easy from time to time Adywan. We need you. You are our last hope.

Hey guys, been out for awhile. been keeping up to date though.

anyways, this scene was shown at a Star wars convention V. It is supposedly a scene that will be added in the blu ray release of Return of the Jedi.

Look in the general discussion, some idiot freaked out and said it was off topic, like this forum hasn't done that before. :p

:: Editing out my previous warning, and calling me an idiot, has earned you a temp ban. Well done!

- M

What Plans? said:

Even if the starfields were similar, that could easily be explained as stars which are too distant to change position in the sky.

The one background which had always royally pissed me off, even as a kid, is the final scene of ESB when Luke and Leia are looking at the distant galaxy.  That galaxy is huge in the sky, but even so, it would still be at LEAST a few MILLION light years away.  Which means that it should have been visible in every single starfield in the entire Star Wars saga.  There would not be a single place in the galaxy that you could go without seeing it in the sky. 

Just like, even if Earth got moved to the other end of the Milky Way, much of the night sky would actually remain the same because of the light coming from stars in galaxies outside of our own.

There seem to be some general misconceptions about how visible other galaxies are to the naked eye (or a film camera). The closest galaxy to ours of any considerable brightness, for example, is Andromeda, which is ~2.5 million light years away. Astronomically, that's very close. Can we see it? Just, with the naked eye. It doesn't and never could appear like the image we see at the end of TESB. The images you see of Andromeda are about 400 billion dots of light which, from a distance, appear to form a whole. The closer you get, the lesser this appears. Galaxies are simply not dense or bright enough to be that visible to the naked eye. So it can't be a galaxy. Not that it really matters if it were intended to be, as it looks nice, and it's irrelevant to the story what it was meant to be.

As for starfields not changing... Well, if you don't move far and you are looking in the same direction, sure, you would see the same arrangement of stars. But if you move to a different system, absolutely the starfield will change, completely. The more distant (and generally less visible) stars might move less to begin with, but all the nearer stars would change relative positions. Identifiable constellations, for example, would be the first to go, and then your sky is truly different. The only time part of a starfield might look the same is if you move further away from a particular point of view but facing the same direction; again, after a while it will all change. No-one else in the galaxy gets to see Orion like we do :-)

No need to, really. ;-)

Agreed. While it can't actually be a galaxy, who cares if it was meant to be? It looks nice and it is completely inconsequential to the plot, so it doesn't matter. I was just pointing out a few things about its visibility if it were a galaxy, but I'd still keep it as it is.

Although it's not central to the plot, I do think that a new star forming makes a nice thematic link. Whenever you watch a movie, don't just think about the plot and the characters, but also how the composition and subject matter of each camera shot communicates the mood and themes of the story. A good director will pack each frame with visuals that are relevant not just dramatically but thematically as well.

That's a good point well made; a lot of movie viewers completely overlook that level of composition - like things are "just there". Of course some movies have a far greater amount of compositional thought put into them (let's not even mention Kubrick!), but your reading of it being a new star is a very nice thematic link.

Has it been considered changing Luke's pronunciation of Tatooine at the end?  I'm sure Hamill has said it right at some point after countless interviews through the years.

rpvee said:

Has it been considered changing Luke's pronunciation of Tatooine at the end?  I'm sure Hamill has said it right at some point after countless interviews through the years.

Someone already asked that a couple hundred pages back.  I stumbled upon it earlier this morning.

Adywan decided that, just like Han and Leia's names have multiple pronunciations, the planet name may be pronounced differently as well.  He said he is leaving it how it is. 

And considering that Luke is a native, his pronunciation may actually be correct.

Or considering that Mark Hamill is a terrible actor...  ;-)

What Plans? said:

rpvee said:

Has it been considered changing Luke's pronunciation of Tatooine at the end?  I'm sure Hamill has said it right at some point after countless interviews through the years.

Someone already asked that a couple hundred pages back.  I stumbled upon it earlier this morning.

Adywan decided that, just like Han and Leia's names have multiple pronunciations, the planet name may be pronounced differently as well.  He said he is leaving it how it is. 

And considering that Luke is a native, his pronunciation may actually be correct.

haha, in how many threads can one actually say something was posted a couple hundred pages back? lol

Anyways, a fair answer.  Thanks! :)

While we're talking about galaxies (TESB and otherwise), one interesting little statistic for you... If the Sun were one pixel on a jpg image, that jpg would have to be 25,000km wide to show the whole galaxy. Even at one pixel, the galaxy is still twice the diameter of the Earth. Jinkies!

I think the galaxy debate is exhausted anyway... if it were meant to be a galaxy it doesn't matter anyway as it's irrelevant to the plot. If you want to see it changed, cool, but it makes no difference either way.

I'm just curious, has there been any moment in the film that hasn't been argued about in this thread?

TML said:

I'm just curious, has there been any moment in the film that hasn't been argued about in this thread?

Hmm, that's a good question, I actually had to think a while about it. I don't recall anyone arguing about the part in the movie where Zev Senesca finds Han and Luke in the snow.

The Golden Idol said:

TML said:

I'm just curious, has there been any moment in the film that hasn't been argued about in this thread?

Hmm, that's a good question, I actually had to think a while about it. I don't recall anyone arguing about the part in the movie where Zev Senesca finds Han and Luke in the snow.

Yeah, you're right. What unnecessary alterations can we think of for this shot?

Actually, I say that, but sincerely I've never liked the shot of the speeder turning and flying over Han - I think it's the last shot before we wipe back to the base. The compositing is pretty bad, it's too contrasty I think, and there is no shadow when I think there would be one. Not a fan of that shot.

But the dialogue is good, and after all it's only a short service scene.