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xhonzi said:

Which brings me back to the question: How do you know when you have enough?

 Its a question of mood.

Objectivly, there's rarely a need editing wise to show travel. A quick establishing shot and a character entering would usually be enough. But

Silverado's a fine example, because

  • A significant part of that movie is the epic feel of the American West. It's a very self-aware Western.
  • Traveling together is one of the main ways it establishes the bond between the four heroes, especially the end then they rejoin up.

So it has LOADS of horseriding with heroic music.

Easy Rider is a film whose main purpose is long shots of riding motorcycles with desert scenery. The sheer SCOPE of LOTR justifies much of its walking/running shots. You could probably cut 10 minutes from each movie easily just by trimming the traveling sequences, but something indefinable would be lost.

In Silence of the Lambs Starling travels all over the place investigating, but they don't show any of it because it would be counter to the mood of the film. Same with all the Indiana Jones films. Nothing would be gained by a 90 second mood piece of Indiana Jones in the car driving to Donovan's house.

Like with a fight scene or a sex scene, the real question is how invested is the audience to want to see this sequence go on compared to the rest of the movie.

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As someone who's in school for film editing right now, we're told that the general rule of thumb is to follow the "rule of three" - that is, it's generally most aesthetically pleasing when things happen in threes.

Take the Falcon approach to Yavin IV - in the 1977 cut, you have three (I think) shots of it approaching in space.  Once it's in the atmosphere, it's considered a different location, so the rule resets.

However, we're also taught that such "rules" are guidelines, not rules, and things such as this are more governed by what feels right, or good, than the numbers themselves.

But once you start thinking about the "rule of three," you'll see it everywhere, especially in editing.

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And TheBoost gave a much better answer than I - it has to serve the story first, above all else.

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TheBoost said:

xhonzi said:

Which brings me back to the question: How do you know when you have enough?

 Its a question of mood.

Objectivly, there's rarely a need editing wise to show travel. A quick establishing shot and a character entering would usually be enough. But

Silverado's a fine example, because

  • A significant part of that movie is the epic feel of the American West. It's a very self-aware Western.
  • Traveling together is one of the main ways it establishes the bond between the four heroes, especially the end then they rejoin up.

So it has LOADS of horseriding with heroic music.

Easy Rider is a film whose main purpose is long shots of riding motorcycles with desert scenery. The sheer SCOPE of LOTR justifies much of its walking/running shots. You could probably cut 10 minutes from each movie easily just by trimming the traveling sequences, but something indefinable would be lost.

In Silence of the Lambs Starling travels all over the place investigating, but they don't show any of it because it would be counter to the mood of the film. Same with all the Indiana Jones films. Nothing would be gained by a 90 second mood piece of Indiana Jones in the car driving to Donovan's house.

Like with a fight scene or a sex scene, the real question is how invested is the audience to want to see this sequence go on compared to the rest of the movie.

I'm sorry- The answer was... 3.  That's right, 3.

Thanks for playing anyways, Boost.  Everyone give ChainsawAsh a big hand!

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Well done Chainsaw

Incidently, I got to the stage where i 'sighed' for the third time viewing Paranormal Activity 2 the other night, just trying to give it chance after over an hour of viewing. Thats when i knew id had enough, so just flicked to the end for 'the scare' climax (im a rare breed that actually enjoyed the first film). I was really in the mood for a build you up, shit your pants film after halloween aswell.

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Darth Solo wrote:

thats a compliment.

...and that reference with the previous one should show i've grown way past up ...to quite old.

 

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TV's Frink wrote:

none said:


Pizza Pizza
Thread win.

(looking to bury this joke)

Can I get the Thread Win, a Pizza AND a Movies?

...and the Segway And little blond boy...

I'll take that as a polite 'No'.

 

See kids, learn from my mistakes. 

"Know When To Quit Making Poor Reference Jokes."

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*Insert JediTray'ism Here*

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Darth Solo wrote:

I pressed the wrong button again, didn't i?

 

Yes you did, Darth Naval Solo Gazer. 

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Dude, im gonna take your stalking over this thread to my responses now on my PMs. Okay.

Sorry folks, normal service as resumued, i hope.

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Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay.

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none said:

Oh, I'm soooooo stealing that one.

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TV's Frink wrote:

Oh, I'm soooooo stealing that one.

Shouldn't that be "Oh, I'm soooooo willfully copyright infringement violating that one."?

 

that MUST be why Warbler *sigh*ed

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none said:


Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay.

^This. I was surprised CC kept in the KKK scene. Also, I love Neil Patrick Harris.

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Ahh. LC slipped my radar, I've got to get through that and the other Cagney and Robinson classics I've missed.

Woodstock Director's Cut: you can't tell that Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker helped to edit this...

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