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2010 MLB Playoffs — Page 4

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Anchorhead said:

Speaking strictly as a fan,  my preference would be Rangers-Giants.

Now who the hell am I going to root for?  Probably lean toward Texas, even though I went to more Giants games this year than Rangers games.  Oh well.  either way, the only sport I follow is winding down for the year and then it's quiet until April of next year.  Here's hoping for seven games at least.

Might have to get me one of those World Series shirts with both teams on it.

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yeah, yeah, yeah.    I wish I could drink right now,  but I've got a bad cold.    The two just don't mix.   

Sorry I told you to fuck off, Dayv.     I was upset(for reasons obvious).     I don't think I'll watch the World Series this year.

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C'mon Warb, you're overreacting.  Your team made two straight WS and won one of them.  How do you think I feel at the end of each year since 1908?

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yeah, I know.   But I still don't think I care to watch this years World Series. 

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TV's Frink said:

My picks:

Rays and Twins

Giants and Phillies

 

Rays and Phillies

 

Phillies

 

Ugh.

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We're all there together, pick-wise. The two teams I wanted to go, did - but the two teams I was sure would go, did not.  Us, the "experts" from all the sports mags and shows - and even the Yankees & Phillies themselves - all sold the winners short. 

One of the things my wife & I discussed during the playoffs as they progressed was that the Yankees and Phillies seemed to play with an air of entitlement, as though they just assumed they would automatically win again.

I saw what I felt was a noticeable lack of seriousness on the part of both teams (Yankees\Phillies). I think the Yankees left pitchers in too long in crucial situations and I think the Phillies assumed a win every time they took the field. 

Under no circumstances can I even fathom leaving the bat on your shoulder when it's a full count, runners in scoring position, ninth inning, two outs, down by a run, in an elimination game.  WTF???  If I were facing The Beard in that situation, I'd have swung at the thing twice before it hit the catcher's mitt.  

My point, I guess, is that we all underestimated the Rangers & Giants.  You guys, Warb particularly, I can see - you were pulling for the team you follow.  Me - I'm really disappointed with myself.  I didn't even predict the two teams that I actually wanted to win. Two teams I follow closely, two teams I'd watched in person several times this season. Shameful.

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I wasn't pulling for anyone on any level.  Just whiffed on my picks, except for the NLCS.

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Anchorhead said:

Under no circumstances can I even fathom leaving the bat on your shoulder when it's a full count, runners in scoring position, ninth inning, two outs, down by a run, in an elimination game.  WTF???  If I were facing The Beard in that situation, I'd have swung at the thing twice before it hit the catcher's mitt. 

you would have swung at it if you thought it was going to be a ball, would you?    But yeah,  Ryan Howard come up short in the last two post seasons.  The whole team, batting-wise, has.   Not sure what to do about it.    We already changed hitting coaches midway through the season.   Don't know what to do, but something needs to be done about our lack of hitting.   There is no reason we should have lost this series with the kind of starting pitching we had.

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Warbler said:

  Not sure what to do about it..... Don't know what to do, but something needs to be done about our lack of hitting.   There is no reason we should have lost this series with the kind of starting pitching we had.

Man, the Phillies made it to three LCS in a row & two WS.  At that level, there isn't always a tweak that can be made to guarantee or improve. Sometimes teams are evenly matched and one of them has to lose.  I think that's what we saw in both leagues this year.  It made for some edge of your seat baseball.  Personally, I don't care for blowout ball - games or series.  Fans aren't into it, teams aren't into it, and it makes for a boring game. 

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Anchorhead said:

Warbler said:

  Not sure what to do about it..... Don't know what to do, but something needs to be done about our lack of hitting.   There is no reason we should have lost this series with the kind of starting pitching we had.

Man, the Phillies made it to three LCS in a row & two WS.  At that level, there isn't always a tweak that can be made to guarantee or improve.

all I know is that we aren't hitting as well we used to.   Something has to be done.   It wasn't just this series, it was well over half the season.  

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Sometimes teams are evenly matched and one of them has to lose. 

it didn't look like an even match-up to me.    The Giants played hungry and we didn't.    They seemed to be one step ahead of us.  Even their pitching seemed to be better.    The Phillies did not seem prepared for the war the Giant gave us.     I think they played overconfident.   They made way too many errors.   Manuel made a dumb decision by not starting Halladay in game 4, and of course the bats were ridiculously flat.  They left way too many base runners stranded.   I know I should be happy about what the Phillies  accomplished these last 3 seasons.   They got to the playoffs 4 years in a row,  won the divisional round 3 years in a row, won the NLCS 2 years in a row, and won the World Series in '08.    I know that.  But I can't help but think, if we had played as well as we could have(both last year and this year),  we could have 3-peat.     I know it shouldn't, but it leaves me angry and frustrated.     I want go and scream at the players, that they need to get their heads out of their asses and wake up and to start playing hungry again.

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I think that's what we saw in both leagues this year.  It made for some edge of your seat baseball.  Personally, I don't care for blowout ball - games or series.  Fans aren't into it, teams aren't into it, and it makes for a boring game.

I and  I think most other fans, wouldn't mind blowout ball at all, as long as it is our team doing the blowing out.    

 

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Warbler said:

I think they played overconfident.   

 

I absolutely agree.  I felt the same way about the Yankees.  Complacency cost both teams.

 

I and think most other fans, wouldn't mind blowout ball at all, as long as it is our team doing the blowing out.

Comfortable going into the 8th, sure.  14 to 1, not for me.

 

On a somewhat related note;

I think Utley handled himself very well with regards to Sanchez trying to start an incident when Utley underhanded the ball back to the infield. I really doubt that was any sort of message or comeuppance. Sanchez was clearly rattled already.  Glad Bochy took him out of the game when he did. Seems like he spent the rest of the game pouting in the dugout. 

 

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Anchorhead said:

I and think most other fans, wouldn't mind blowout ball at all, as long as it is our team doing the blowing out.

Comfortable going into the 8th, sure.  14 to 1, not for me.   

I know you wouldn't feel that way.   That is why I said "I and most other fans".    I wouldn't mind 14-1 at all as long as the Phillies were the team with the 14 points.

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On a somewhat related note;

I think Utley handled himself very well with regards to Sanchez trying to start an incident when Utley underhanded the ball back to the infield. I really doubt that was any sort of message or comeuppance. Sanchez was clearly rattled already.  Glad Bochy took him out of the game when he did. Seems like he spent the rest of the game pouting in the dugout. 

 

I think that Sanchez getting angry could been a trick.   It delayed the game enough so that Affeldt could warm up.    Of course Utley wasn't sending him any kind of message.   If Utley was trying to send him a message, he wouldn't have thrown the ball underhanded.   

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Warbler said:

I think that Sanchez getting angry could been a trick.   It delayed the game enough so that Affeldt could warm up.    Of course Utley wasn't sending him any kind of message.   If Utley was trying to send him a message, he wouldn't have thrown the ball underhanded.   

Completely Agree!

 

GO GIANTS!

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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I hope I can live to see the day when I'm pissed my team only won one world series in one hundred three years.

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*sigh* I don't expect you to understand.  

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Well, I expect you to understand.

Quite honestly, it comes off as whining.  Think about how you felt before the Phils won their World Series.  How did you feel about Yankee fans talking how rough things had been because they hadn't won in six years?  Didn't that sound like whining?

 

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*sigh* maybe, giving time, I'll see it that way.   For now, I am angry.  But please don't compare the Yankees to the Phillies.   The Yankees have 28 championships, the Phillies only 2.    The Yankees have had multiple dynasties over the years.   This was the Phillies one chance at that and they blew it.   I know the Cubs haven't won one in over 100 years.   But your other franchises have been much more successful than the Philadelphia teams.   The Bears in 1985,  the 6 Bulls championships with Jordan, and the White Soxs  won one in 2005, and the Blackhawks just won this year.   Since 1985, that is 9 8 championships to Philadelphia's 1. 

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TV's Frink said:

I hope I can live to see the day when I'm pissed my team only won one world series in one hundred three years.

Oh you own a team? How's that going for you?