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I don't think you can trust a single thing this guy says.  He might not even be human.

xhonzi said:

And Frink, you definitely have breast cancer need to play The Room: The Adventure Game: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/547307

It's browser based, so you should be able to play it on your C64 or whatever.

Holy shit that's awesome.  Bookmarked for later...

Response to the latest drama in the ESB:R thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-RELEASE-DATE-2011/post/446291/#TopicPost446291

And I don't care if I run The Room into the ground.  I will never be the same.

Johnny said:

005, you're my favoreet custohmer.

Not a movie, but I've been watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer recently.  I'm about halfway through Season 2 now.

I'd never seen any of it before, but a buddy of mine whose taste I trust implicitly (he got me into Doctor Who and The X Files, how could he steer me wrong?) has been telling me to watch it for months.

So, now that I have a real Internet connection, I've been Netflix Instant-watching it.  And it's pretty fantastic.

The first season started a little rough, but picked up in its last half-to-two-thirds.  Season 2 has been superb so far, especially the Halloween costume episode.

I also watched the 1992 movie (with Kristy Swanson and Donald Sutherland) before watching the series.  I'm glad I stuck with watching the series, because the movie was a bit of a turn-off - a bit too on the ridiculous side.  And I start watching the series, only to find out it's not canon at all - vampires in the series don't fly, turn to dust when they're killed, and have weird "vampire faces" when they ... erm ... want to, I guess.  And Buffy never burned down the gym in the movie.  And her parents are huge cunts in the movie, whereas they're quite nice in the series.

Anyway, my point is, I'm enjoying the series, despite thinking that I wouldn't, and I'm excited for the next five-and-a-half seasons.

Oh, and for anyone who's seen it and Angel - would you recommend watching Angel in tandem with Buffy, or watching them separately (in which case, I'd watch all of Buffy before watching any Angel)?

I've never seen one minute of Buffy.  I can't get past the fact that it's about vampires.

I don't mind vampires when they're done properly, and - with the exception of the weird "vampire face" thing - they're done very well in Buffy.

Plus, it's not like every episode is about vampires.  It's kind of like The X Files - you'll have your "mythology" (in this case, vampire) episodes, but in between you have a lot of "monster-of-the-week" episodes.

The Halloween costume episode I mentioned was about a costume shop that sells Halloween costumes that literally turn you into whatever costume you're wearing.  Another episode was about a cursed Incan mummy returning to life and sucking the life out of people.  Another was about a kid Frankensteining his dead brother back to life, then Frankensteining an undead woman for him to live with.

So it's not solely about vampires.

(this is the main reason I hate 'twilight' - it's pretty much ruined vampires forever for a lot of people)

I've watched Angel and Buffy separately and in tandem.

It's a bit of a bugger to get right.

There are some guides out there about which episode of which to watch when and there are a few moments that don't quite fit but it can be fun trying to slot the pieces together (Wikipedia has a nice list).

Neither show is really about vampires (they have vampires in them as well as demons, werewolves, cyborgs... but not leprechauns) they are more about a much more frightening group of creatures, youngsters (particularly the female of the species), what they do, how they grow and the trials that beset them.

The monsters are metaphors...do you see? 

captainsolo said:

 

Just cannot dig modern vampire stuff.

 Why is such a rich and compelling mythical creature almost consistently fodder for terrible terrible films?

ChainsawAsh said:

(this is the main reason I hate 'twilight' - it's pretty much ruined vampires forever for a lot of people)

 You can't blame Twilight for anything, it's just not original enough.

It's just reaping the foul results of 30 years of dandified Anne Rice styled tortured vampires and mixing it with the vampires and werewolves should fight! trend. Throw in "vapire politics" that's in everything, and you have a work so derivative it's not even worthy of blame.

TheBoost said:

ChainsawAsh said:

(this is the main reason I hate 'twilight' - it's pretty much ruined vampires forever for a lot of people)

 You can't blame Twilight for anything, it's just not original enough.

It's just reaping the foul results of 30 years of dandified Anne Rice styled tortured vampires and mixing it with the vampires and werewolves should fight! trend. Throw in "vapire politics" that's in everything, and you have a work so derivative it's not even worthy of blame.

You're getting ESPARKLIES and vampires mixed up dude.

Last night. BACK TO THE FUTURE. Best print of an older film I've seen in a long time (remastered for Blu-ray). Most enthusiastic and fun crowd I've been with. Glad I wore my Back to the Future shirt with the DeLorean on it.

Can't wait to buy the Blu-ray Trilogy October 25th.

captainsolo said:

Never have watched it. A lot of people love it though.

The movie just seems so delicious to me. Dumb cheerleader is stalked by Donald Sutherland, who then tells her that she has to kill vampires? Count me in!

And I so I watched 5 minutes of it. It's awful.

Just cannot dig modern vampire stuff.

The show has a very, very different feel compared to the movie.  If you're interested, give it a shot.

As Bingowings said, the show's not really about vampires so much as it's about the kids.  The monsters and such are metaphors for things kids go through.

Lazy Frink, was Lazy. and asked rather than Googled - isn't Buffy a Joss Wheldon show?  I love Dr. Horrible and have been looking forward to checking out Firefly, so I might have to check out Buffy too at some point.

Almost for as long as there have been vampire films there have been bad vampire films.

Like any character archetype there are a few good examples of usage and a much larger set of bad to middling examples of usage.

The Twilight books/films seems to be a compendium of every trope of television and cinema vampires from Rice on (though I must confess to enjoying her earlier books even if it's difficult to separate them from what they have inspired).

You have the teen/angsty vamp romance (but without the consequences of the Buffyverse) the werewolf/vamp antagonism of Underworld without the glossy Matrix inspired action or the blood (or the wit and consequences of Being Human).

Monsters generally work best as metaphors but the metaphorical action (like real decisions) are gelded without consequences shown.

Where Let The Right One In and 30 Days Of Night work is by showing the monsters (humans in one, vampires in the other) as monstrous.

It's hard to see the vamps and werewolves in Twilight as any different from the humans in that story (shiny skinned fancy dress manikins going through the motions of life while avoiding actually living).

Bingowings said:

Almost for as long as there have been vampire films there have been bad vampire films.

Like any character archetype there are a few good examples of usage and a much larger set of bad to middling examples of usage.

The Twilight books/films seems to be a compendium of every trope of television and cinema vampires from Rice on (though I must confess to enjoying her earlier books even if it's difficult to separate them from what they have inspired).

You have the teen/angsty vamp romance (but without the consequences of the Buffyverse) the werewolf/vamp antagonism of Underworld without the glossy Matrix inspired action or the blood (or the wit and consequences of Being Human).

Monsters generally work best as metaphors but the metaphorical action (like real decisions) are gelded without consequences shown.

Where Let The Right One In and 30 Days Of Night work is by showing the monsters (humans in one, vampires in the other) as monstrous.

It's hard to see the vamps and werewolves in Twilight as any different from the humans in that story (shiny skinned fancy dress manikins going through the motions of life while avoiding actually living).

Don't forget the Hammer Horror Dacula films with Christopher Lee. Also Shadow of the Vampire was quite good.

The Hammer films were a product of the 60's and 70's, if you were to go that far back you'd find plenty of terrible vampire films and to be honest the Dracula films are very patchy from Hammer (the Karnstein films are far more consistently interesting).

I love Shadow Of The Vampire and like Chronos and the other examples I gave it's a demonstration of using the vampire archetype in a more interesting way.

I gave the examples I did because they are more recent.

Frink -

Yes, Buffy and Angel are both Joss Whedon shows.  He also wrote the script for the movie, but it got changed somewhat significantly between him selling it and the movie being made.  The first season of the TV show is a sequel to his original script for the film as opposed to the film itself.

And I do highly recommend Firefly.  Don't forget about Serenity, the Firefly movie - it takes place after the end of the series.  (Though my roommate, who loved the show, didn't like the movie for some reason.)

My roommate didn't even finish it.  She didn't get to the more ... ah ... upsetting aspects.  She didn't like that it wasn't as funny as the series, and that Mal was much more of an "asshole."  She said it didn't "feel the same."

DarkGryphon2048 said:

Bingowings said:

Almost for as long as there have been vampire films there have been bad vampire films.

Like any character archetype there are a few good examples of usage and a much larger set of bad to middling examples of usage.

The Twilight books/films seems to be a compendium of every trope of television and cinema vampires from Rice on (though I must confess to enjoying her earlier books even if it's difficult to separate them from what they have inspired).

You have the teen/angsty vamp romance (but without the consequences of the Buffyverse) the werewolf/vamp antagonism of Underworld without the glossy Matrix inspired action or the blood (or the wit and consequences of Being Human).

Monsters generally work best as metaphors but the metaphorical action (like real decisions) are gelded without consequences shown.

Where Let The Right One In and 30 Days Of Night work is by showing the monsters (humans in one, vampires in the other) as monstrous.

It's hard to see the vamps and werewolves in Twilight as any different from the humans in that story (shiny skinned fancy dress manikins going through the motions of life while avoiding actually living).

Don't forget the Hammer Horror Dacula films with Christopher Lee. Also Shadow of the Vampire was quite good.

and don't get Bela Lugosi