3D STAR WARS for the masses...has ARRIVED! — Page 9

Anchorhead said: 

Look at the myriad of changing stories & excuses - lost, ruined, Grand Vision, money, technology, no demand, etc, etc - that he's given for not properly releasing the 1977 version of Star Wars. It doesn't matter how many people continually ask for it, or expose and prove him a liar.  He just doesn't want to, so he digs his heels in even more.

All kidding aside, he's not right mentally.

I heard somewhere once that later in life Monet destroyed as many of his old paintings as he could find because he was crazy or an ass or both.

ps

It might have been Manet. Art's not my thing.

Animation cels?

Anchorhead said:

TheBoost said:

I heard somewhere once that later in life Monet destroyed as many of his old paintings as he could find because he was crazy or an ass or both.

It was Monet.  Not really as many as he could find, but it was several series of works that he had decided weren't perfect.

 I imagine he splashed them with turpentine, slashed the canvas, then turned to someone nearby and said, "That's my original vision!"

The action figures for the 3D release will be flat, but you can buy special glasses to see them in three dimensions.

Star Wars is already in 3D (two dimensions of space and one of time).

Wow, so we are getting a conversion in four dimensions for the price of three! A bargain!

On BBC Radio Four today (I can't remember which programme) it said that TPM and ROTJ were going to be released first???

I'll see if I can track down which programme it was (it had a nice editorial comparing the 3Dising of classic 2D films to Ted Turner scribbling pastel shades over monochrome classics).

The Mark Kermode/ Simon Mayo show took a similar stance.

It might be worth someone dropping them a line about the irony and about the campaign to restore the OUT.

Bingowings said:

Star Wars is already in 3D (two dimensions of space and one of time).

Bingowings said:

it had a nice editorial comparing the 3Dising of classic 2D films to Ted Turner scribbling pastel shades over monochrome classics

That's good.  That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

ChainsawAsh said:

Bingowings said:

it had a nice editorial comparing the 3Dising of classic 2D films to Ted Turner scribbling pastel shades over monochrome classics

That's good.  That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

It was Front Row (don't know how many of you can use the listen again option).

The Simon Mayo/Mark Kermode show is here but it's also available to listen to in podcast form via iTunes and the like

Wouldn't be funny if Lucas decide to hold off on the BluRay Saga Boxset next year, and decide to only release the movies on BluRay in 3-D in 2017 after the 6 movies are finished theatrically?

Lucas would say in 2017, "Sorry you fell in love with half-completed SW movies from 1977-2005, as these are the real versions now.  If you want the OOT, SE, PT in 2-D, they're availabe on VHS or DVD.  Sorry bitches!!!"

I guarantee you that if he poured the money for the 3D conversion of all 6 films into restoring the OUT instead, and released it in a Blu-Ray box along with the 1997 SEs, 2004 SEs, and the 2011 SEs (assuming there will be more changes), he'd make all his money back and more.  I think that would be more profitable than 3D re-releases.

Mainly because I know I would buy that, but I'll not see any Star Wars film in 3D, ever, no matter what, and I can't be the only one.

Well, obviously I can't give you a real guarantee, as no one can unless they happen to have a time machine.  But I'd be confident enough to bet everything I have on it.

Alexrd said:

There is no reason to think that you have to pay for the PT to see the OT. The conversion is already being made, and it was announced already that all six films will be converted.

not necessarily

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/10/star-wars-3d-george-lucas-titanic-james-cameron.html

Alexrd said:

As for the OUT, he may think it's too expensive considering how much profit will it make. It could not cover the price of restoration.

I guess he says that, but I'm sure he knows the math of it is pure bullshit.

My estimation for the cost of restoring the OOT from the original negatives:

$1-4 million.

Sales for the first day of release of the 2004 boxset:

$100 million

So, let's say the OOT deluxe boxset does about half of that, just to be conservative. And lets upsize the restoration cost of the trilogy to be about $5 million. Then lets add another two million in some disc design and extras, plus all those other miscellaneous cost. Fox pays for the marketing and distribution, as far as I know. But lets highball it again and say that Lucasfilm sinks another $10 million in its own marketing and tie-ins like website features and such.

So, highballing a restored, high-def release from the negatives with a 4K or 8K D.I.: $5 for the restoration +$2 million for DVD and Blu Ray production+$10 million for marketing and tie-ins.

That's a price of about $17 million, highballing everything. But hell, let's push it up some more, just to put us further in Lucasfilm's corner and say it's gonna cost $20 million.

So, assuming the release does half of the 2004 DVD set, and also factoring in the fact that this will be one of the most popular Blu Ray releases at least in its year, let's make a conservative estimate of $300 million in combined sales in its first year of release. It ought to make half a billion by its third year in circulation. Again, being super-duper conservative. Now, part of that goes to Fox--but Lucasfilm's deal with them is extremely lucrative for Lucasfilm. Let's say they give Fox 25% of the sales.

So, for an exaggerated price of $20 million, Lucasfilm stands to right away make just shy of $250 million in the first year of release, and about half a billion in less than five years.

Yeah, poor Lucasfilm. Personally, in a more realstic setting I would cut the cost in half and double the profit margins.

The roadblock to the OOT is psychological, really, not financial. On paper it is the last gold egg from the Star Wars goose. If you were paranoid you could say that they are saving it for when they have no more product, but I think Lucas' last hurrah is the 3D releases, as by the time they are done he will be in his mid-70s and will likely be preparring to break up his empire and retire fully.

Which, of course, leaves us screwed.