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Jedi Master DJR
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COUNT DOOKU
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18-Apr-2004, 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by: SpecialEditionSaboteur
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I hate to get sarcastic, but let's think for a moment if we talk about mindless action and saber duels. If there is so much in the prequals, how about you name it?


Okay I'll name it.

TPM:
1. Jedi vs Droids on Trade Federation space station (quick obi-wan this way, we'll use the ventilation shaft)
2. Jedi vs Undersea monsters
3. Jedi rescues Amidala from Naboo
4. the pod race
5. Qui-gon-jin vs Darth Maul pt 1
6. Battle for Naboo
7. Jedi vs Darth Maul
8. Annie blows the trade federation ship (yippie I blew it up)

AOTC:
1. Jedi vs Zam Wessel
2. Obi-wan vs Jango Fett
3. Obi-wan chases Jango
4. Anakin and Padme vs Droid factory
5. Arena battle
6. Jedi vs Seperatists
7. Clonetroopers vs Seperatists
8. Jedi vs Count Dookie

Now lets examine the ones from OT

ANH:
1. Rebel blockade runner attack
2. Millenium falcon escape from Tatooine
3. stormtrooper chase on death star
4. Millenium Falcon vs Tie Fighters
5. Battle of Yavin

ESB:
1. Battle of Hoth
2. Millenium Falcon chased by Imperial fleet
3. Luke vs Darth Vader
4. Escape from empire

ROTJ:
1. Luke vs Rancor
2. Escape from Jabba
3. Speeder bike chase
4. Battle of Endor
5. Luke vs Vader

As you can see the OT relied more on story than on action. (note: I left out the tibits involving the cantina fight, sand people fight, wampa fight, etc... Because these aren't long enough to be action sequences)



Oh, I see. Instead of having any Wars at all to Star Wars, maybe we should make it Star Sh@@. Half the things you mention are needed to explain parts of the plot, like Luke versus Vader, or just for story pace in general. Just because a movie is an action movie doesn't mean anything with, let me think here, ACTION is worthless, pointless, etc... It serves the purpose of moving the story better and keeps the audience entertained.

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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
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We don't know that at all. Not to mention Grand Moff Tarkin was a major ANH bad guy and we learn NOTHING about him. Seems like your have a slight double standard on this, in my opinion.


Tarkin is completely different because he was so straightforward. He was an evil imperial officer, thats all we needed to know:

Dooku is:

-a former Jedi master who left the order (why we don't know)
-He became a Count (of what we are not told, how or why are also a mystery)
-He is really a sith working for sidious (since when we are not sure, and whether he knows Sidious is Palpatine remains a mystery)
-He was qui-gon's master, but for some reason had never met Obi-wan (which makes zero sense given that they all live in the jedi temple)
-He was Yoda's padawan, but this is only mentioned in the eleventh hour of AOTC and nothing really comes of it
-He's older then Sidious (well at least CL is older then IM, which sort of seems out of place with the whole master/apprentice thing)

And he's introduced in the last third of AOTC where he fails to really make a decisive impression, with his...




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...death in the first 25min of Ep3...



















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it seems unlikely we will learn anything more about him.


I have no problem with Dooku not being in the SW series for very long, but he should not have had such a complicated offscreen origin if that was the case.



I see, Tarkin being in one movie, ANH, is so much more then Dooku. And with that, we learn even less. And as far as Dooku goes period, we do not know how much more will be learned. And I think we learned a good bit about him for the first movie he appeared in, especially compared to Vader's debut in 4. And here's another thing, hint hint, Dooku being Yoda's padawan was supposed to be a surprise. But you already knew that.