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Leonardo said:

 

... Usually I let the context define it for me.

That's my idea actually. It allows me to post images here with the mind in pieces peace (Doing so reasonably of course). I don't know if I'd feel as good if CMG had chosen to call its curse "thumb suckers".

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I used to suck my thumb until my dad broke the habit by getting me to smoke Woodbines.

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I would probably take up smoking if I weren't so stingy.

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I say do it and encourage governments and advertising police to not run your life.

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I was pulling your leg, my nan smoked Woodbines, I tried them once but my head could never recover from filter free fags, it's like drinking loose tea without a strainer, sure there's a knack but I never mastered it (Turkish cigarettes hit like a smack in the head).

I've been cigarette free for four years but I chew Nicotine gum like my life depends on it.

It's nice to be able to breath, breathing is good, breathing is our friend.

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Cant stand when government agencies or political parties tell you how to live your life, whatever they say to do almost makes me want to do the complete opposite

Wear a seatbelt, its my life, Ill wear one if I want
Dont smoke its bad for you, oh ok thanks, now bug off and live your own life, you dont want to smoke then dont
Take these vitamin pills theyre good for you......as if I wasnt living fine for the whatever amount of year before you told me this
Oh youre depressed? My doctor says take these pills and then they make you happy.......naa I think Id rather just take a swig of this drink, thanks

Call me old fashioned

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While I wouldn't go so far to say that I don't think they should ever be translated, in translation I think it is an absolute necessity to do so. But I agree with you 100% as to the trickiness of translating them, and the cultural complexity of curse words.

 

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Wearing your seat belt isn't just for your safety it's for the safety of passengers in your car and for other people on the road when parts of your pointlessly dead corpse go flying through the window and wrap themselves around and/or slam into other vehicles and passers by.

I don't like the blanket smoking ban in pubs and restaurants, it's a pain the arse for some non-smokers left guarding the coats and bags and tends to lead to a huge pile of butts and drunken brawls outside which I can't see because I'm on guard duty.

I'd be all for having smoke free and smoking establishments (giving people a choice as to where to drink and where to seek employment) and better ventilation and smoking free zones in the smoking ones.

Sometimes vitamin supplements are a good idea if a Doctor advises you to take them you should listen and consider the advice but you shouldn't swallow tonnes of pills for no reason.

Eat well and walk in the sun a bit and you should get most of what you need.

Booze will not make you happy.

It will only remove your inhibitions so if you are hideously depressed or violently angry you are more likely to act on those feelings.

If you are feeling saucy or have an urge to get on the dance floor and do the funky chicken you are also more likely to act on those feelings.

Happiness is caused, usually by noticing chaotically generated acts of a nature beneficial to some aspect of your being and your brain generating chemicals which enforces your fight/flight power down mode.

It's fleeting and you really can't force it.

Like sadness it will arrive when you least expect it and depart in much the same manner.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

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I was talking about all about all the commercials behind the premise

I hate seeing seatbelt commercials, when it should be the drivers choice, my body goes flying, so be it.....not a very good argument either

Smoking, Im for people doing what they want, they want to split sections or have different establishments, thats fine, but the commercials bother the piss out of me telling me how to live my life and how smokers are the outsiders and youre basically stupid for doing so.....if I am a smoker, its not that Im stupid, I just dont give a damn

Vitamins and pills are the same way, cant go one hour without seeing at least 10 commercials for crap that we live for centuries without and dont need

Drinking, well.....again, let people do what they want, I dont like it much but I was using it just to prove a point

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It shouldn't be the drivers choice to wear a seat belt any more than drinking and driving or driving with your eyes closed or driving dressed in a Klansman's helmet throwing lumps of pork at passing Jews.

I'd make it so the car won't start until the driver and all passengers were belted in (there must be an engineering solution to idiots drinking and driving too).

If you don't like commercials, why don't you switch off your television set and go outside and do something less boring instead? (bolded as it was ironically the title of a UK kids television show).

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C3PX said:

While I wouldn't go so far to say that I don't think they should ever be translated, in translation I think it is an absolute necessity to do so. But I agree with you 100% as to the trickiness of translating them, and the cultural complexity of curse words.

 

yeah, in my prev. post I probably forgot to add "literally", as in they should never be translated literally. otherwise you've hit it on the nail, with the phrase "cultural complexity"; they sure are tricky...

and I agree with Bingo's above points. I ALWAYS wear my seat belt, even for the shortest trip, say the greengrocer's. Just because you never know. You never know what might happen to you (i.e. sudden loss of control of the vehicle) or to the other drivers.

When going out with people, if I'm driving that night I NEVER drink.

On these two things I never make exceptions.

Now, as for smoking, I don't smoke by habit. Once in a while I will have a cigarette, just to celebrate something like an exam, or because it's too goddamn cold and I want something warm, or to "shock" my friends who never saw me smoke (for a laugh). [and everytime I smoke I'll cough like there's no tomorrow LOL]

I know smoking is bad for one's health, and I think many smokers are well aware of that too.

Alchool, just like water, is to be taken with moderation. I don't always follow this one, but hey, pobody's nerfect!

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driving without seatbelt = drivers choice, not governments

If youre driving alone and get into a crash, your body will go flying and hurt the other person in their vehicle? cmon now

Im keeping to my anti seatbelt position, it should be the drivers choice when he is the only person in the car, perhaps Ill pony up and buy a car old enough that it was grandfathered in when no seatbelts were in the car, or at least lap belts

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What about the people called to the scene?

There are two universes one where you wore the seatbelt and are still alive with a minor whip lash or still alive but trapped in your car and need to be cut out.

And another where you are pointless reduced to minced meat.

Sure the emergency services are paid (often not enough) but in terms of job satisfaction I imagine a good day for them would be saving a life or helping clear up an accident with no pointless fatalities over clearing up the mess left by some silly berk rebelling against the nanny state.

Doctors and the police take no pleasure in informing relatives of the death of a loved one (not unless they are mental), especially one that has been pointless rendered into a pile of butcher's shop mis-shapes.

If you think human debris can't create risk of further fatality I suggest you ask someone in the know.

The twits who refuse to switch off mobile phones when asked on planes and in hospitals or when they are driving probably think they are being free spirits too.

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You forgot the 3rd situation

The sensational driving off the bridge or road into the water where the seatbelt actually keeps the person in the car and very effectively kills them

Any person can make an argument for or against, with valid reasons on each side. Both wearing a seatbelt and not can cause death.

But leave the decision of such up to the driver, its their life

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It not just their life.

It's the life of everyone surrounding that individual both in the crash situation and after the crash situation.

You are perfectly free to bungee jump (from a safe location wearing the correct protection) you are still taking a risk but the risk to others is contained.

There are laws to prevent you from bungee jumping from a skyscraper overhanging a busy street, that's not your choice to make, that's not your risk alone.

It's the same with drunk driving.

It's not a case of government deliberately messing up your life (like the pointless ID card schemes and OTT airport security moves) it's law in service of public safety.

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Agree to disagree

(Where you see safety and concern, I see restrictions on lifestyle choices and liberties being stripped, and in a coup to some how get/make money......instead of letting the driver decide, well make it illegal and fine the people who dont and then say it was for safety reason, when in reality, its just another way for us to make alot more money)

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That's an utterly unreasonable stance to take.

Seeing as nothing I can say will make you see sense we will have to leave it at my sincere desire that you and anyone who travels with or around you never suffers a preventable fatality because of your distaste of an increasingly rare example of  sensible and considerate legislation.

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Lets take my money approach

You are in a car by yourself and crash into a phone pole


Situation 1: You wore your seatbelt, you have numerous amounts of injuries including broken bones from the seatbelt and lacerations from glass. You get taken to the hospital and FULLY recover in a years time
Emergency services, reckless driving citation, ER costs, meds, surgury costs, rehab costs......total cost? could be over 50 thousand, oh lets not forget the car

Situation 2: You didnt wear the seatbelt and and die....total cost? who cares your dead and you knew this because you decided not to wear a seatbelt, Even then theyll (the man) will probably end up going after your family to recoup some of the costs of something.

Truth is that they want you to live so that you can pay those bills and keep giving them money. They lose money when you die.

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If this is some kind of joke it not as funny as Frink.

In fact it's not funny at all.

You are saying that you'd put yourself and others at unnecessary risk to stop the man from making cash out of keeping you alive?

If you are being serious you really need to sit down and think about what you are typing.

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No, what Im saying is that if you think "the mans" top priority is YOUR safety......you seriously havent thought this thru that well, or you just believe whatever they tell you to believe

Safety is not their top concern, that much I can guarantee you.....if there wasnt anyway to make a profit on any of this, then they wouldnt be doing any of it

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Who cares what 'the man's' top priority is in this situation?

Your top priority should be the safety of your passengers and fellow travelers and the potential fall out for emergency service personnel and your family and friends (and those of others) should your actions create or make worse avoidable carnage.

In an ideal world there would be no need for any Government or laws because everyone would know how to behave correctly and freely opt to do it.

In reality there are ignorant and careless people.

That's why we have laws.

If you think big business and big Government is creaming off too much providing that service take a stand against that, not laws that keep people safe.

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Um, I care about the mans top priority because it affects our lives in the choices they make. Implementing their moral viewpoints on others and calling it law is just whack.

When I get into my vehicle, my top priority is to be comfortable, belts, HANS devices, 8 point restraint systems, this stuff is not relevant to my interests. Velvet seats however are.

Lastly, the last point you made, safety laws, I think I would have less of a problem with them if they just came out an said
" You know we are making these laws so you will wear seatbelts, yes it is true we are getting silly rich off you who dont wear them and yes, we also own the companies and patents of the designers of these seatbelts, but this all this information shouldnt concern you, just know that your safety is our top prioty.....wink wink"

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Warned for violation of Rule 2

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