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Mithrandir said:


Well guys, this is my first post. Regarding EPV, I think visually it's the most impressive, and the closest to the PT. However, a few changes besides the one you proposed (I think) could be done.

I know that Adywan's point of view is that PT should be the one who gets near the OT, but still, there are some things we could see, or take from PT as improvements. For example:

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The linked image is a screenshot from ROTS. The stuf inside the circled area, is that half globe we see hanging from every vessel, in this case, it's the tantive IV. I assume it's sorta control room of the hangar, which is, in the tantive, as well as in the SDs, inmediately after (or before, it depends on how you see it) it. I mean, doing something like this

http://img695.imageshack.us/i/0001728.jpg/

We could also fix the engines of the SDs so they look little more hot an powerful, like this

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Yu could also change the lites of the SDs from yellow, to blue, just as the PT SDs and the Executor have.

And finally, in order to reach vissual coherency along the saga, it is always useful to introduce some PT stuff in a few scenes. I've seen that there's a Federation droid shown as garbage, inside the sandcrawler. Things like that should be repeated all along the movie when possible, like introducing an "old" AT-TE from Geonosis in the battle of Hoth, or another "old" droid in Bespin, for example.

Though in ESB it'd be just a detail, in ROTJ (sorry for this minimal offtopic) where "the whole Imperial fleet" shows up, it'd be a little bit less than a duty to introduce "old" Clone War vessels and SDs, as long as the Empire literally tries to smash the rebellion with its full full fleet,
Short answer: no.

Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

But seriously, besides the engine colors being made consistently blue, there is no reason to add any "old" equipment to ESB or any other movie. The battle droid in ANHR is more of an in-joke than a prequel reference. "The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away," says Tarkin.

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doubleofive said:

Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


But seriously, besides the engine colors being made consistently blue, there is no reason to add any "old" equipment to ESB or any other movie. The battle droid in ANHR is more of an in-joke than a prequel reference. "The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away," says Tarkin.

 

Don't you mean, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"?

"Darth Vader... tall and threatening in his black helmet, flowing black cape, and a face, forever masked, by a foreboding metal breath screen...

Darth Vader... a figure, who moves forever in a cloud of awesome evil!"

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@ Mithrandir...That's where Lucas lost his marbles and screwed up the PT, he lost the story in all the "muck" of special effects and extra's that had no benefit towards making the movies better.

Remember it's about the story and not about all the "muck" just thrown in there just cause you can.

From what I've seen from Adys work so far on ESB:R (which isnt a whole lot,lol) I believe IMO he has things on the right track and knowing Ady he will have more than a few surprises for us that he'll keep secret until it's release.

Keep watching and posting...

@ DoubleoFive....you took the words out of my mouth.

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Mithrandir and speaker-60 have to be trolling. Seriously, those aren't legitimate posts are they??!

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Here's my favorite bit...

Mithrandir said:

I know that Adywan's point of view is that PT should be the one who gets near the OT, but still, imma gonna tell you what I want in ESB:R anyway.*

However, speaker-60 appears to want to do it him(her?)self and is just asking in the wrong place.

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Those are some bold words, gurgle... ;)

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TV's Frink said:

Here's my favorite bit...

Mithrandir said:

I know that Adywan's point of view is that PT should be the one who gets near the OT, but still, imma gonna tell you what I want in ESB:R anyway.*

However, speaker-60 appears to want to do it him(her?)self and is just asking in the wrong place.

 

Woa woa woa, I'm just trying to give my opinion here, I'm not tellin anybody what to do. May I misunderstood what's this thread about.

Besides, if you take a careful look at ANH:R, when Vader kills Ben, there's an issue (the incandescent scare) which we haven't seen during the whole OT. Adywan took it from the prequels, liked it and put it there.

I'm not asking you to agree with me, neither to support me, but the spirit of a forum is to share ideas. Nothing more, nothing less

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Mithrandir said:

Besides, if you take a careful look at ANH:R, when Vader kills Ben, there's an issue (the incandescent scare) which we haven't seen during the whole OT. Adywan took it from the prequels, liked it and put it there.

What is an incandescent scare?

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Sorry for the mistake. I'm not american. Actually english isn't my native language. I was referring to what you call "sabre burn marks", we haven't known those till PT

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Webster says:

1in·can·des·centadj \-s?nt\

Definition of INCANDESCENT

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a : white, glowing, or luminous with intense heat b : strikingly bright, radiant, or clear c : marked by brilliance especially of expression <incandescent wit> d : characterized by glowing zeal : ardent <incandescent affection>
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a : of, relating to, or being light produced by incandescence b : producing light by incandescence
in·can·des·cent·ly adverb
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Aha, burn marks.

Yeah well, just like in ESB:R, Ady wanted to add lightsaber burn marks to the obvious places. So why be against it?

It's normal, it fits, and it looks fine.

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Mithrandir said:

Sorry for the mistake. I'm not american. Actually english isn't my native language. I was referring to what you call "sabre burn marks", we haven't known those till PT

Ah, I think you meant "scar" rather than "scare."

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Mithrandir said:

Sorry for the mistake. I'm not american. Actually english isn't my native language. I was referring to what you call "sabre burn marks", we haven't known those till PT

Ady didn't add those because they were in the PT. He added scorch marks because that is how the physics of light sabers work.

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asterisk8 said:

Mithrandir said:

Sorry for the mistake. I'm not american. Actually english isn't my native language. I was referring to what you call "sabre burn marks", we haven't known those till PT

Ady didn't add those because they were in the PT. He added scorch marks because that is how the physics of light sabers work.

Spot on. (What I said)

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I'm just saying that not all what's been introduced in the PT is useless or stupid, neither bad. Nor even for Adywan, whose "point of view is that PT should be the one who gets near the OT".

I didn't ever say that anything from the PT should be introduced just because it's on the PT. I just said that some stuff, if it fits properly and adds something to the story, could be considered. Just as it happened with the burn marks. For example; right after killing Ben, Vader goes away (when the blast door starts to close) and then when he realises taht the rebels are scaping, he turns round and comes to the hangar (fortunately the door is already closed). If I said, "hey there it'd have been cool to add the burn marks" I'd be giving my opinion, not saying "hey, add it!". It'd be just that, an opinion.

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Loconut said:

Those are some bold words, gurgle... ;)

 yeah I dont know what happened there...fixed now I hope.

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Mithrandir said:

I'm just saying that not all what's been introduced in the PT is useless or stupid, neither bad. Nor even for Adywan, whose "point of view is that PT should be the one who gets near the OT".

I didn't ever say that anything from the PT should be introduced just because it's on the PT. I just said that some stuff, if it fits properly and adds something to the story, could be considered. Just as it happened with the burn marks

Well, I don't understand adding the dome on the bottom of the SD. How would that change, made for the PT, add anything to the OT? If anything, that dome will be removed from the PT.

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There is a rather beautiful accidental poetry about the combination of the words incandescent and scare.

Adywan had said that he will not be doing another version of ANH:R and I doubt he would introduce ideas that would clash with what he has already done in the finished and near finished projects he has done but there is always the ANH:SE Redux and ESB/ROTJ Wishlist threads for posting ideas for general use.

I have the upmost respect and envy for people who can post in languages other than their birth language.

I find it difficult enough to keep typos and grammatical errors out of posts in English.

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The dome stuff, it was an idea that come out to me, and since I had the screenshot at hand, I posted it. Actually, the only thing it can do is give the SD's model a blue-lighted detail, so as to scape a little from gray, only a visual improvement... if you consider that an improvement...

But lets take another example:

EPIII, the Invisible Hand is falling (this happens two times). The firt time when the ship is under the command of general grievous. He orders to power the emergency booster engines. We see something weird in the engines, like a reverse engine.

Then when Anakin is piloting the ship, entering Coruscant's Atmosphere, he does something that "closes" the engines in order to stop the fall.

This "emergency mechanisms" are shown in the PT. Suppose you use them during the crash of Executor in ROTJ. They'd clarely add tension and drama to the scene. Maybe it'd be a radical change, radical enough to reject it, but it'd make a point to introduce it if it adds something, don't you think so?

 

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Bingowings said:

 

I have the upmost respect and envy for people who can post in languages other than their birth language.

Glad to hear it. We try hard ! Please make an effort guys ;)

 

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The dome stuff, it was an idea that come out to me, and since I had the screenshot at hand, I posted it.

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Maybe it'd be a radical change, radical enough to reject it, but it'd make a point to introduce it if it adds something, don't you think so?

 

Yes, but I think it's a good idea for all of us to think critically about what we want to suggest before we suggest it. If it's fixing a continuity error or goof, that's one thing. But if we're suggesting a change of some kind, it's worth being certain that it falls within Adywan's very clear concept before we post something that may spark two pages of off-topic posts. With nearly 20,000 posts in this thread, I think it's unfair to Adywan, who has to read through all of it, to say "I know this goes against your philosophy, but I'll share it anyway." Many, many times Ady has said he's not adding PT elements to ESB:R. No offense, but you haven't really suggested anything that "adds something" that ESB lacks.

 

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To add to your post, if you have a suggestion that you KNOW Adywan will not accept, don't post it in this thread.  There is a separate thread for ESB and ROTJ suggestions to fan editors in general, that is not an Adywan-specific thread.  And there is yet another thread for ANH suggestions that is also not an Adywan-specific thread (this goes double for ANH, as Ady will not be doing any more revisions to ANH:R).