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Haha, pretty much. :)
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A B C said:
Ah? Thanks. Teenagers stuff, then.
Well, not completely, as a lot of EU stuff dates back to the Marvel comics and the Alan Dean Foster novels (like SPLINTER OF THE MIND'S EYE).
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Narrgh! All these years I thought people were talking about the European Union (joke).
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Monroville said:
A B C said:
Ah? Thanks. Teenagers stuff, then.
Well, not completely, as a lot of EU stuff dates back to the Marvel comics and the Alan Dean Foster novels (like SPLINTER OF THE MIND'S EYE).
Of course and as everythings: depends on the dose.
... Can't help it. These EU things make me think of stuff for kinda Star Wars "otakus".
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I've been biting my lip because I know how seriously some people take the whole Star Wars EU.......but,.........If you go back to when I was a kid of 8 years old, there's the excitement of this new movie coming in the summer that the newspapers have been printing pictures of........pictures of robots and worn spacecraft that look so........used and real. Well you all know that that movie came out and here we all are now still talking about it.....but back then the cool spaceship was the Millennium Falcon, but only in the past ten years its got this back history created like what factory and planet it was manufactured on, a model name etc. Back then it was the Falcon.
I'm not saying loving Star Wars isn't cool, but in the 70's you were cool if you were in to SW, thats why so many celebrities appeared on TV and proclaimed their love for it (Sam Jackson, etc), Star Wars was hip cause it was excepted as what it was, you filled in the blanks with your imagination. On the other hand back then if you said you were into Star Trek, or Space 1999 (not so much Doctor Who), you were considered a nerd, (star trek had so much techno-babble, too much technical detail.........nerdy)
I just feel disheartened that people are passionate about the parts of Star Wars that I feel were created just to earn more money from the fans.........yes we all felt sad when we walked out of the cinemas back in 83 with 'yub, nub' still echoing in our ears. I went back to see the film over 20 time that summer, bought every thing I could by scrounging money off my parents for memorabilia, everyone didn't want Star Wars to end........and on that hunger, the EU went into overdrive........Star Wars to me is the three movies from my childhood, from 1977 to 1983......that even the hard-nuts in my school were in to...........things have changed nowadays.
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Star Wars is different things to different people. It's all a work of fiction, of course, so you can take what you want out of it.
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I've been biting my lip because I know how seriously some people take the whole Star Wars EU.......but,.........If you go back to when I was a kid of 8 years old, there's the excitement of this new movie coming in the summer that the newspapers have been printing pictures of........pictures of robots and worn spacecraft that look so........used and real. Well you all know that that movie came out and here we all are now still talking about it.....but back then the cool spaceship was the Millennium Falcon, but only in the past ten years its got this back history created like what factory and planet it was manufactured on, a model name etc. Back then it was the Falcon.
I'm not saying loving Star Wars isn't cool, but in the 70's you were cool if you were in to SW, thats why so many celebrities appeared on TV and proclaimed their love for it (Sam Jackson, etc), Star Wars was hip cause it was excepted as what it was, you filled in the blanks with your imagination. On the other hand back then if you said you were into Star Trek, or Space 1999 (not so much Doctor Who), you were considered a nerd, (star trek had so much techno-babble, too much technical detail.........nerdy)
I just feel disheartened that people are passionate about the parts of Star Wars that I feel were created just to earn more money from the fans.........yes we all felt sad when we walked out of the cinemas back in 83 with 'yub, nub' still echoing in our ears. I went back to see the film over 20 time that summer, bought every thing I could by scrounging money off my parents for memorabilia, everyone didn't want Star Wars to end........and on that hunger, the EU went into overdrive........Star Wars to me is the three movies from my childhood, from 1977 to 1983......that even the hard-nuts in my school were in to...........things have changed nowadays.
J
All arguing aside and debates galore...I have to say this is the most thought out and heartfelt comment about how some of us feel about the Star Wars that we grew up with and the Star Wars that is today.
I do enjoy the EU, but not at the expense of the love and imagination that developed from being around when Star Wars first hit the screen. There's just something about "filling in the blanks" that has a bit of magic to it, even if it is only a movie.
@Jaitea...you have hit the nail on the head.
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And now back to TESB:R....
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Just a question or two about the escape from Hoth. When Han protects Leia from the cave-in, is her scream different or altered in the SE vs. GOUT? Also, it sounds like they add an additional grunt to Leia when Han (roughly) grabs her by the arm and they start running the other way.
Ady, if I was right on that, are you planning to make any changes to that?
Also, I've always liked the shot of the Millennium Falcon's laser cannon blasting the snowtroopers. Any chance we might get to see the cannon spraying the field before the Falcon takes off?
I still vividly remember hanging on the edge of my seat, watching that scene for the first time with my Dad and my brother on opening weekend 1980.
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yes the scream is slightly different and they added an additional grunt. Although the first scream is the same the it was lower in the mix and the first section was cut. I prefer the way it is in the SE so i won't be changing that back
I doubt i would be adding any extra shots of the falcon blasting the troopers. It doesn't really need it and it would need to fit in without ruining the pacing and the music cues
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I doubt I would be adding any extra shots of the falcon blasting the troopers. It doesn't really need it and it would need to fit in without ruining the pacing and the music cues.
Part of the point of revisiting the trilogy is to improve plot pacing during some scenes. Since you'd be doing the exact opposite, I agree in not adding them back in. ;)
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adywan said:
I doubt I would be adding any extra shots of the falcon blasting the troopers. It doesn't really need it and it would need to fit in without ruining the pacing and the music cues.
Part of the point of revisiting the trilogy is to improve plot pacing during some scenes. Since you'd be doing the exact opposite, I agree in not adding them back in. ;)
Well, as long as you agree....:)
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yes the scream is slightly different and they added an additional grunt. Although the first scream is the same the it was lower in the mix and the first section was cut. I prefer the way it is in the SE so i won't be changing that back
I doubt i would be adding any extra shots of the falcon blasting the troopers. It doesn't really need it and it would need to fit in without ruining the pacing and the music cues
On the first point, thanks Ady. I wasn't sure if I was remembering it correctly.
As for the laser cannon, I wouldn't want to suggest adding an extra shot in that scene. Sort of going along the lines of your most excellent revisit of the TIE Fighter attack in ANH:R, you added a lot to that scene by adding a sense of motion (the moving starfields, the Falcon moving).
When the cannon deploys, it swivels to the right and starts blasting the snowtroopers as they try to set up their big black cannon. What I was suggesting has to do with the second shot, which happens right after Leia says "Someday you're gonna be wrong and I just want to be there to see it." It only lasts maybe a second or so, and the cannon is firing away. While it looks great, the cannon is just stationary.
Don't you think it might look just a little bit cooler by swiveling back towards the left and spraying the field? As you can see when the snowtroopers and their gun emplacement are shredded, there are multiple hits on target, and the laser fire is not concentrated on just one spot (as the shot of the non-moving cannon firing would imply). Hell, you wouldn't even have to replace or alter the sound effects of the laser cannon blasting. Just altering that one shot to include a little movement would not in any way disrupt the tension and pacing of the escape or necessitate a change in the music cues as there would be no change in the time length of the shot.
Again, it's just a friendly suggestion, but I think it would work. Thanks for doing all you are doing Ady, and thanks too for being accessible and accommodating to your fellow STAR WARS fans.
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Been looking forward to this fan edit for a long time now, Adywan. Glad to hear it's nearing completion. :)
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Since it's my birthday, (Pleasure-)popcorn is on me!
ENJOY!
on-topic...Julia Roberts rules (FB'ers will understand)
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No image displaying here. I want my damn popcorn! :)
Happy Birthday, Loconut!
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Since it's my birthday, (Pleasure-)popcorn is on me!
ENJOY!
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Happy birthday. And that Julia Roberts thing, i'm going to sit in the corner of shame
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Happy Birthday Loconut.
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And that Julia Roberts thing, i'm going to sit in the corner of shame
Thanks Ady. And don't be ashamed, I only respect you more. (I did get a 100% on the SW quiz...justsayin')
Take it easy on the popcorn.
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Still "red X" central here.
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It pops into view if you feign a reply with quotes (usually a good trick for seeing non-linkable images in threads).
And there is always the right click and open in another window option.
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on-topic...Julia Roberts rules (FB'ers will understand)
What ?... A remake ?... A role as Leia ?
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Loconut said:
on-topic...Julia Roberts rules (FB'ers will understand)
What ?... A remake ?... A role as Leia ?
no. lol. i did one of the quizzes on facebook about julia roberts and got 100% then did a star wars one and got a question wrong (although i know i clicked on the correct answer). I'm so ashamed i'm just going to sit in the corner hanging my head in shame.
Ok, some breaking news that might just redeem my shame.
Recently i have been having a chat with an ex member of these boards who has been a very great supporter of this project. You may remember Janskeet and that he funded the tibetan lamb fur needed to make the wampa as realistic as possible. Well we had been chatting about the blu-rays coming out next year and he asked if it would be possible for me to do ROTJ:R in 1080p. i told him that there was just no way of doing something like that with my setup as it is borderline doing ESB:R in 720p as it is. Next thing i know he had offered to fund a better PC so i could work in 1080p and we got the new parts this weekend. So......
ROTJ:R will be in 1080p :) Thank you janskeet
Even though this has happened ESB:R will still only be 720p. It's just impossible to go back and redo everything in 1080p and too much has already been done .
The good thing about ROTJ:R is that i don't have to use any GOUT footage at all so no upscaling issues, so this one was possible. The one shot i would need to use from a lower quality source would be the original Anakin ghost, but i can use one of the SE broadcasts for that as it worked perfectly well with the Emperor in my ESB 97' 1080p reconstruction . But who knows what will be on the Blu-rays
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GREAT news and many many thanks to Janskeet!
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Thats fantastic news ady! Would like to see pics of your work station if it's ok with you?
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