The SE's are Lucas perfered versions of the films. He considers the original verisons of the films rough cuts. I agree the original verisons of the films should be perserved and righly so I never said they should'nt be.
kenkraly2007 said:
I don't know why everyone is upset that only the special edition versions of star wars episodes 4 , 5 and 6 are coming out on blu-ray in fall of 2011. 1st back in 2006 rick mccallum the producer of the speical editions was interviewed on reelz channel and someone asked when the star wars films come out on blu-ray which versions of the original films will be out on the BD and he said Lucas wants the special editions. So when he said only the special editions where going to be on the Blu-Rays of episodes 4 ,5 and 6 I was not surprized. But some people want the original verisons of the 1st star wars films and yes they should be perserved but the SE's are Lucas's perfered versions of the classic trilogy. That bothers some fans but it does'nt bother me as much. I will be buying the Star Wars Films on blu-ray in fall of next year 2011.
W.T.F. Do you even understand why this website exists or what the cause of it is ?.
Yes I do to get the original versions of the OT on blu-ray.
Then why bitch about people wanting the original versions?
I don't mean too. But I've heard the same thing over and over since 2004 it's getting a little old.
kenkraly2007 said:
I don't mean too. But I've heard the same thing over and over since 2004 it's getting a little old.
Then why come to a site that exist's mainly to have the original trilogy in an acceptable quality ?.
kenkraly2007 said: But I've heard the same thing over and over since 2004 it's getting a little old.
Well, you are likely to hear much more of it if you continue to post here. If you are sick of people talking about their wish for the original versions in high quality, then a forum devoted to that aim is a bizarre place to go.
2004? Going by what he was writing I thought these were the efforts of a very impressive three year old (I guess 2007 wasn't Ken's birth year after all).
kenkraly2007 said:
I was born in July of 1983.
27 years old...which makes this whole thing kind of sad.
I was also born in 1983, and I am 100% on you old people's side. ;-)
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Let me just clairify I am not aganest other people from wanting the original cut of the OT. And I am sorry for all the complaning. Their now do you forgive me.
kenkraly2007 said:
I've heard the same thing over and over since 2004 it's getting a little old.
Oh, what a tough burden to carry. Try to soldier on. (seriously, it's just a dvd request, relax already.)
kenkraly2007 said:
The SE's are Lucas perfered versions of the films. He considers the original verisons of the films rough cuts. I agree the original verisons of the films should be perserved and righly so I never said they should'nt be.
So a dude releases a "rough cut" into theaters, gets rich beyond imagination, then decides *20 YEARS LATER* "ya know, maybe I should finish that little movie I made way back when" and is able to get away with saying that this new-fangled version is what he intended all along?
Must be nice to live in fairy tale land... say hi to Cinderella for me.
Adywan is right, the SEs were nothing more than a proving ground for the prequels.
kenkraly2007 said:
The SE's are Lucas perfered versions of the films. He considers the original verisons of the films rough cuts. I agree the original verisons of the films should be perserved and righly so I never said they should'nt be.
I can understand some people preferring the SEs. Both the originals and the SEs deserve to be preserved. However, the fact that the originals are not being preserved is a tragic loss to film history, and therefore cultural history, since it was a film that revolutionized movie making. It was the originals that garnered 7 academy awards. It is highly unusual for a major film in modern times to be lost. SW falls into that category. That is why people who love cinema are (and if not, should be) upset. And that is the purpose of this forum - to make the best effort to correct that wrong. Given that we don't have legal recourse, this is the best we can do. Anyone who claims to love film should be glad there are people so passionate to act on behalf of preserving film history.
And note under the "other films" category, that many of us are making similar efforts to preserve other films as well. It's not about Lucas - it's about the films, and about history. I don't hate Lucas, I don't even know him, although I hate what he is doing to the great films that he made.
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He'll get away with it anyway.
Death is the only thing that makes sense anymore.
Instead of begging for the OT restoration and release; let's write Lucasfilm and request that the OT be loaned out to Criterion/Janus films. That would work for everyone-George could even get his percentage and still maintain that his SW is the 04 now on Blu-ray. If anyone wanted the original "unfinished" versions they could go get them from Criterion. (Like he said about buying old VHS tapes and LDs.)
And it would simply never happen.
Metropolis was fully restored. Still no OOT.
Apocalypse Now is released in 2.35:1 for the first time since 1979. Still no OOT.
Criterion licenses films from numerous film companies that they have never been given access to before. (Paths of Glory, Night of the Hunter, the entire collection of Chaplin's feature films) There is absolutely no reason why a deal like this cannot be made. Even the new Blu of Apocalypse is being licensed to Lionsgate instead of Paramount because of Zoetrope's new distribution deal.
In addition, the Warner Archive program should prepare and release the original version of THX-1138 to coincide with their Blu-ray release of the Director's Cut.
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captainsolo said:
Instead of begging for the OT restoration and release; let's write Lucasfilm and request that the OT be loaned out to Criterion/Janus films.
There is no way that would ever happen, and it has nothing to do with Lucas' pride. The fact is, he knows that if the OOT got restored and released, then nobody would buy his revised versions. He'd lose a ton of money.
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Sorry dude but the numbers tell a different story. I think people just like Star Wars movies and don't care about SE vs. OOT. They'll buy whatever's out there. Hell, that's probably the only reason he's been able to get away with neglecting the OOT.
All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.
I'm sure that's probably true. On the other hand, LFL would have us believe that if both versions came out separately on the same day at the same price, with zero extras each, the original versions would get ignored by all but a few of us crackpots, and I think that's way off.
I think people read the reviews on sites like Amazon before buying things. One could only imagine if a Criterion set of the OOT was for sale alongside a more-buggered-up SE'2011, how many stars each would get, and what the reviews would say. The result is a large number of people would choose the Criterion set. There is no doubt in my mind that he knows that... but he can ensure that doesn't happen by simply not releasing the OOT and not making it available for others to restore. Why he doesn't release a restored OOT himself, well, THAT I believe IS stubbornness and pride.
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I can see that quite a few people might vote down the OOT Blu-ray for not including the SE and forcing you to buy it twice to get both versions. Same way we're going to vote down the SE.
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generalfrevious said:
He'll get away with it anyway.
Death is the only thing that makes sense anymore.
Is anyone else concerned about this dude?
thecolorsblend said:
Sorry dude but the numbers tell a different story. I think people just like Star Wars movies and don't care about SE vs. OOT. They'll buy whatever's out there. Hell, that's probably the only reason he's been able to get away with neglecting the OOT.
I am afraid you have it backwards. The reason the majority of the people are buying the SE DVD's and will be buying the SE Blu-ray's over the OOT DVD's and OOT Blu-rays should be obvious.
Henry Ford said that anyone could buy a Model T in any color they wanted as long as it was black.
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generalfrevious said:
He'll get away with it anyway.
Death is the only thing that makes sense anymore.
Is anyone else concerned about this dude?
Yes; that is (at least) the second time you have posted something like that, generalfrevious. If you really are thinking like that, please seek professional help immediately. If not, please do not post in that way.
Sadly he isn't French because I still have the phone number from the last guy.
generalfrevious suicide isn't funny or a viable form of getting attention.
Talking about suicide in relation to a particular release of a particular cut of a film particularly so.
Statistically there will be people on here who have been directly effected by someone actually committing suicide and if you have been there you'd wouldn't type that sort of crap.
Even if you believe nobody would care about the mess left behind, the fallout, consider the strangers who would have to deal with it for a moment and think about the people who would rather be looking after people who want to live and do care about the people around them who will instead have to pick up and process your vacant corpse.
Suicides don't gain attention or win anything from their actions because they are not there.
If you are serious or not you really need to examine what's going on in your headspace and if it's too difficult get a qualified grown up to help.