Coov, one can assume that Obi Wan picking up the saber near the burning Anakin would be cut. And unless a way can be found to actually show Obi Wan finding his discarded saber at some other time, it can just be assumed, come ANH, that he's found it after the events of the movie.
I have several ways to deal with the saber color changing come ANH, all are still being tossed around atm. Nothing is set in stone right now.
My Episode 3 Edit Reign of the Dark Side
I think it enough to show the red saber when Anakin is about killing the children. There's no reason I think to show it, and looked silly in the last video, Palpy speaking and something red showed in the picture...
OK. I'm getting confused by all the saber switcheroo.
The saber you've shown in Palpatine's desk is Vader's black & silver saber. This is a different saber from Anakin's silver saber that is later given to Luke (which Anakin has just used to lop off Windu's arm).
So if you're fixing this in ANH, that implies to me that Luke will receive the black & silver saber. But he obviously receives the silver one. So, yeah, I'm confused.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
I think (hope) the red saber ANH clip is intended as a joke. :p
Anakin's/Luke's blue lightsaber.
Darth Vader's ANH/ESB/ROTJ lightsaber.
I was thinking about these impressions have to use it with the "saber switching" scene. If you can cut out the background of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5AdIwFBEHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPB9X3k1mck
Good luck! :)
I think the whole lightsaber switchening idea would be nice to see but i don't think its going to be possible without heavy editing. Apart from looking cool the idea is flawed unfortunately. It's either cut Obi picking up the lightsaber which wouldnt make sense in ANH. Switch the lightsaber hilt/handle design which would be inconsistent with later films. Simply change Anakin's lightsaber crystal to red but then how did Obi wan change it back. I think replacing the crystal may be easier.
How wouldn't it "make sense" in ANH? So you're saying that just because we don't see Obi Wan physically picking up the saber in ROTS, that the audience can't connect the dots themselves and assume he's recovered (Jedi) Anakin's discarded saber off camera at some point?
Are you Lucas? lol
Regardless, seeing Obi Wan picking up the lightsaber after cutting off Anakin's legs and leaving him to burn to death just makes you think "what a lying bastard" in ANH when he says "your father wanted you to have this"
It has to go!
At least this way, he's not giving Luke a saber he used as Darth Vader that was used to murder children.
And as for the hilt in the battle matching the one Sidious gives him...who on earth has a quick enough eye to spot it unless they know what they're looking for...plus Vader's saber didn't match between ANH, ESB and ROTJ anyway. In fact, the ROTJ one was completely different and made from an entirely different camera flash because they lost the ANH/ESB prop.
brash_stryker said:
How wouldn't it "make sense" in ANH? So you're saying that just because we don't see Obi Wan physically picking up the saber in ROTS, that the audience can't connect the dots themselves and assume he's recovered (Jedi) Anakin's discarded saber off camera at some point?
Fair point.
Are you Lucas? lol
Oh God no, I hate that everything is shown to be honest. Just trying to find a way around stuff before anything is cut.
Just a visual crystal idea i had.
Vader's armor changed a great deal in the OT so maybe his saber changed from looking like his Jedi one only with a red blade to looking like it did in ANH.
I do wish something could be done about Vader's suit in ROTS it's too advanced, it looks more like the one in ROTJ than the one in ANH.
Another missed opportunity there from Lucas.
DuTwan said:
Just a visual crystal idea i had.
Only problem I see here is that it's not really that obvious what it is. Also I've never agreed with glowing crystals. Damn the cartoons and computer games! In fact I've never agreed with coloured crystals in general. The way I always imagined it, the crystal is essentially clear, and the colour of the blade would be dictated by the specific and unique internal nature of the crystal and revealed to the Jedi building it when it's first ignited.
Here's a thought:
If Sidious gives Anakin his new Sith saber, maybe we can assume Anakin just keeps both. But the old blue one stays out of sight until the very end of the Mustafar battle.
Right before Anakin says "you underestimate my power", there's a wide shot of him standing on the floating platform. If you reverse the sequence of these 2 shots, in the wide shot you can then add an ignition of his blue saber in his left hand - so he'll have a saber in each hand. He'll make the jump with both sabers and will drop both when Obi Wan cuts him down. When Obi Wan picks up the blue saber, you can even rotoscope in the red saber sitting nearby. (Maybe that can be a symbol of Obi Wan clinging to the good side of Anakin while rejecting the bad).
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Erikstormtrooper said:
Here's a thought:
If Sidious gives Anakin his new Sith saber, maybe we can assume Anakin just keeps both. But the old blue one stays out of sight until the very end of the Mustafar battle.
Right before Anakin says "you underestimate my power", there's a wide shot of him standing on the floating platform. If you reverse the sequence of these 2 shots, in the wide shot you can then add an ignition of his blue saber in his left hand - so he'll have a saber in each hand. He'll make the jump with both sabers and will drop both when Obi Wan cuts him down. When Obi Wan picks up the blue saber, you can even rotoscope in the red saber sitting nearby. (Maybe that can be a symbol of Obi Wan clinging to the good side of Anakin while rejecting the bad).
Now THAT is a potentially great idea. And very symbolic =D
I'd prefer it if Anakin left the blue saber with Padme and Obi-Wan takes it.
It might be possible to create a line like "He gave me this for the child" which would intensify Padme's fear that Anakin is either not going to survive much longer or never come back.
That would nicely tie up the issue of "your father wanted you to have this".
But I think it might require more work (probably shooting new footage) to pull off.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
brash_stryker said:
Erikstormtrooper said:
Here's a thought:
If Sidious gives Anakin his new Sith saber, maybe we can assume Anakin just keeps both. But the old blue one stays out of sight until the very end of the Mustafar battle.
Right before Anakin says "you underestimate my power", there's a wide shot of him standing on the floating platform. If you reverse the sequence of these 2 shots, in the wide shot you can then add an ignition of his blue saber in his left hand - so he'll have a saber in each hand. He'll make the jump with both sabers and will drop both when Obi Wan cuts him down. When Obi Wan picks up the blue saber, you can even rotoscope in the red saber sitting nearby. (Maybe that can be a symbol of Obi Wan clinging to the good side of Anakin while rejecting the bad).
Now THAT is a potentially great idea. And very symbolic =D
+1
I'd have her say..."Give this to my baby from his father in case you kill him and I lose my will to live" :)
Galatians 2: 20: I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Erikstormtrooper said:
Here's a thought:
If Sidious gives Anakin his new Sith saber, maybe we can assume Anakin just keeps both. But the old blue one stays out of sight until the very end of the Mustafar battle.
Right before Anakin says "you underestimate my power", there's a wide shot of him standing on the floating platform. If you reverse the sequence of these 2 shots, in the wide shot you can then add an ignition of his blue saber in his left hand - so he'll have a saber in each hand. He'll make the jump with both sabers and will drop both when Obi Wan cuts him down. When Obi Wan picks up the blue saber, you can even rotoscope in the red saber sitting nearby. (Maybe that can be a symbol of Obi Wan clinging to the good side of Anakin while rejecting the bad).
This is an interesting idea.
However, I don't really understand what this whole fuss is about. Sidious gives Anakin a new lightsaber and then, after ROTS, Obi somehow gets his hands on Anakin's old one.
Well, in my opinion when Luke receives his father's lightsaber, that's a REALLY BIG moment in the movie. It symbolizes Luke's connection to his father and picking up where his father left off. So I think there should be an equivalent moment in ROTS when Obi Wan gets it. At the least, we should SEE him get it.
I don't think this is one of those overexplaining traps that Lucas often falls into.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Well on the one hand, not showing Obi-Wan get the saber might make one wonder how he got it in ANH. But on the other hand, when, in ANH, we see Obi-Wan hand Luke the saber, and he ignites and it's blue, the audience would feel even more touched by the moment since it's almost like Obi-Wan passing on the good that was lost in Anakin, and it would be refreshing to see it again.
With the PT as it currently stands I don't think the audience will have any connection to that object.
He didn't have a saber in TPM.
He used one to kill kids in AOTC and it was chopped in half.
He used one to kill kids in ROTS and dropped it when his legs came off.
Another 'epic fail' for Lucas.
It's hardly Excalibur and is should have been.
Bingowings said:
With the PT as it currently stands I don't think the audience will have any connection to that object.
He didn't have a saber in TPM.
He used one to kill kids in AOTC and it was chopped in half.
He used one to kill kids in ROTS and dropped it when his legs came off.
Another 'epic fail' for Lucas.
It's hardly Excalibur and is should have been.
Well the one in ROTS still killed Count Dooku, ended the Clone Wars, was at the throat of the Emperor himself, changed the fate of the galaxy itself...
Good points, Bingo and rpvee. I especially agree with Bingo's point: there is no legacy to Anakin's saber at all. It would have been great to have seen Anakin construct it, and carry it with him throughout the saga, and as rpvee put it so nicely, change the fate of the galaxy.
Maybe it would be an idea for an AOTC edit to show Anakin with a green lightsaber, and have him have a blue one in ROTS, so we can assume he built a new one? The one he has in ROTS now is just the spare he got on Geonosis.
I like Bob's idea to give Anakin a red saber, but I also agree that it's not really needed for the story. Sure it would look cool, but only if it can be made to work. As cool as Bob's work is, I don't really see it work.
Also funny how everybody is saying that it's ok to just assume Obi-Wan just retrieved Anakin's saber at some point between ROTS and ANH, while everybody was all over Lucas when he forgot to film Obi-Wan picking up the saber. And when would Obi-Wan get the saber? If we'd go Bob's route, the saber would be on Coruscant, and Obi-Wan was stuck on Tatooine at the end of ROTS.
SilverKey said:
Maybe it would be an idea for an AOTC edit to show Anakin with a green lightsaber, and have him have a blue one in ROTS, so we can assume he built a new one? The one he has in ROTS now is just the spare he got on Geonosis.
Nope. Different sabers. He DID build a new one, just we don't see him build it.
SilverKey said:
And when would Obi-Wan get the saber? If we'd go Bob's route, the saber would be on Coruscant, and Obi-Wan was stuck on Tatooine at the end of ROTS.
Why can't you imagine him grabbing the saber at ANY time between him finding out Anakin is a Sith and getting to Tattooine? Whether Bob finds a way to show it or not, it's not important how he gets hold of it. The audience can fill in the gaps if need be. ANYTHING is better than Obi Wan saying "your father wanted you to have this" when really he stole it off his smouldering legless corpse.
ANYTHING is better than Obi Wan saying "your father wanted you to have this" when really he stole it off his smouldering legless corpse.
Agreed.