SW Episode III - Reign of the Dark Side (* unfinished project *) — Page 28

bobgarcia74 said:

Good ideas everone I'll see what can be done. right now I'm tampering with the window behind palaptine. This shot would be in the dark tho. I was thinking of having the window being blown in right after he lights his saber and attacks. Almost as if Palpatine gathering of the Dark side has done it. It will also sell the lights going out.

Just a test shot on one half of the window.

Hmmm,  not sure about this one. Will have to see it in motion. The lights flickering with a force rumble effect before dying down to almost nothing is a must, but I think the glass smashing might be too much. With the lights it's more ominous and atmospheric. With the glass it detracts from the impact of Palpatine moving so unnervingly quickly because we've already had something sudden happen.

Maybe you can even have it cracking slightly in the background as his face transforms?  And the audio of it cracking slowly, too?

Wow... MUST SEE IN MOTION!

I love Bingowings' idea!

Sam has made more than 100 movies http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000168/ , so I'm pretty sure there's some dialog that can be used.

Obviously, it's too time consuming to watch all them, so it would be easier to just go to Sam's IMDB profile and click on his character names and check out the "Quotes" section.

(Windu's quotes, for example, http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000003/quotes )

Oh my god! You magician! Add a brief closeup shot as the panel opens and it'd be perfect. Wow. Seriously in awe here. You've got to keep this.

And yeah, the red glow on the tip of the saber makes little sense, but you should still illuminate the compartment red, like it's lined with leds.

I know you are going to hate me for asking this (especially after all your hard work) but is it even remotely possible to ditch Palpatine (and Yoda) ever using a lightsaber and still keep the scenes?

It would be so much more powerful if he threw bits of the environment and Force lightning around. He could even pull the other Jedi's weapons out of their hands and impale them with their own swords using the Force alone.

I really wish for a PT where only Palpatine can use Force lightning and he never does use a 'Jedi' weapon.

These are the two ends of the spectrum of the Force, Yoda and Palpatine should be above all that.

Imagine your darkened room with lightning instead of a saber.

Now that would be Really something.

brash_stryker said:

Oh my god! You magician! Add a brief closeup shot as the panel opens and it'd be perfect. Wow. Seriously in awe here. You've got to keep this.

I agree.

brash_stryker said:

Oh my god! You magician! Add a brief closeup shot as the panel opens and it'd be perfect. Wow. Seriously in awe here. You've got to keep this.

And yeah, the red glow on the tip of the saber makes little sense, but you should still illuminate the compartment red, like it's lined with leds.

Yes! I was thinking for the same, becaouse it isn't noticable at first. A slower opening of the canister, and maybe a close up from Anakin looking down from the duel sequence with dooku. Then it will make sense "Do what must be done". Awesome work, keep it up!

Bingowings said:

I know you are going to hate me for asking this (especially after all your hard work) but is it even remotely possible to ditch Palpatine (and Yoda) ever using a lightsaber and still keep the scenes?

I agree that Palps should never use a lightsaber, just like Yoda. However you've got to think about what's possible without reshooting. I imagine it would be possible if you reshot a new actor from certain angles, but as a straight edit with some AE tinkering, it would be almost impossible. And if it is, you'd have to get VERY creative with the editing (only using closeup shots of palpatine from the front or shots from behind where you can't see his hand gripping the saber, and erase the saber blade from all shots - which with the Prequels' apparent disdain for static shots, replacing the sabers with background would largely have to be done frame by frame)

Of course, Mace Swinging his saber would have to go then too, unless you want him hitting air? Palps stopping his blows with the force? :p

bobgarcia74 said:

OK, sound FX not added yet, still needs alot of work. This is a possible explaination of how Anakin gets his saber. I say this because I had a few ideas of how to do this. Tossing this one up for thoughts.

This idea came after watching a video by Thecutter. In it he mentions palpatines weird hand movments as he sits down. Thinking the red glow would be removed from the saber tho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6dIWn8zKA

That's amazing!  Just make Palpatine pressing the button more obvious, have a close-up of the saber, and then a shot of Anakin's face look conflicted.  It's too hard to tell what's going on at the moment.

would love to see making of video for one of you special effects shots.

Also was Anakin's voice deeper?

Brilliant work, Bob.

I'd agree with the concept of (in an ideal world) taking out Palpatine using his lightsaber altogether, but I appreciate it might be impossible.

bobgarcia74 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1eYBqU26Eg

Yessssssss !

I would really appreciate if you agree to share this visual fx with me (when complete)...it fits perfectly my edit of this sequence

good job

Hmmmmmmmm...

1. The shot of Anakin showing some conflict is too late, it's almost like he's conflicted about having to kill Nute Gunray.  Right after the compartment opens, there should be a close-up of the saber, and a shot of Anakin looking at it conflicted.

2. The blade across Palpatine's face makes no sense, the position is too weird.  Maybe just have the sound of the saber igniting.  After seeing Anakin's reaction to the saber the way it would be in suggestion 1, it'd be clear what's being heard.

I agree that the saber ignition looks a bit wrong. It's hard to get the angle right when you have no point of reference though. I say put more emphasis on what's inside the opening hatch (by creating a closeup) and leave actually seeing the saber lit until the attack on the temple. Excellent work though :)

brash_stryker said:

... I say put more emphasis on what's inside the opening hatch (by creating a closeup) and leave actually seeing the saber lit until the attack on the temple. Excellent work though :)

Yes!

The way I see it -

All of a sudden, that thing opens and your fanboy-alert goes off. You're thinking, "Whoah! What the hell is that? Is that what I think it is?!"

You suspect it's the red lightsaber, but you're not 100% sure.

And then later - when Anakin ignites his saber and it glows red - your inner fanboy wakes up for real and you enjoy the rest of the movie with a dumb grin on your face. XD

In the apartment scene with Padme when Obi Wan tells her he's turned, maybe it could be possible to insert the saber there, suggesting that Anakin's been back and discarded it....I dunno.